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Mentally ill person with a gun kills their daughter and these mfers are like "hmm, what can taco bell do about this?"
guns are not the problem, we just need more lanes!
And bigger car
"Okay... Maybe we should focus on the mental health of the people..."
"Not with my tax dollars!"
"But this law cost money. Government employees have to work on this. Also, if this passes, drive thru locations have to spend millions to change their locations and might have to shut down during construction. Then you have to pay government permit inspectors."
"..."
Americans gonna remodel their sacred drive-throughs by law mandates in order to ... (project a facade of trying to) lower gun violence (??) rather than tackle gun violence?
Have I understood that correctly?
It's not guns that kill people, but missing escape lanes.
Each school will now have to feature one escape lane per child.
And it will have to be financed by teachers out of their pockets (or the school closes down).
What's more pressing. The ability to buy greasy artery cloging food from the confort of the truck or giving mentally unstable people weaponry that can wipe out a preschool class. Its a hard choice.
Yo, just make emergency gun violence lanes, it will surely work!
(Bcs you can't expect all the SUVs and 4×4 pickups to drive over a low curb & on the grass.)
Yeah, great, it’s the “one more lane” mentality only now it’s being applied to fucking drive thrus!
Seems to me that changing the zoning code to disallow drive-thrus entirely would be an even better idea.
Accidental ableism detected. I fucking love being able to get food without getting out of my car. I wish I could get something other than fast food this way, maybe a nice salad or sandwich.
Requiring a car to eat is ableist. Wheelchair user? Not allowed in the drive though for liability reasons. Blind? Epileptic? Not allowed to drive at all, thus not allowed to buy food because the dining room is closed in the late hours.
You're not required to use a drive-through.
It's very common to close dining rooms for drive-through only. It's so common that fast food places are trending to no dining room at all. E.g.
I appreciate that, but that is a separate discussion. I just want the availability of non-horrible food for those of us who struggle to get out of the car.
Before I became disabled, I walked or took public transit basically everywhere. Having to use a car and struggling with getting in and out and walking around has made things a lot less available for me. I know I'm not the only one just as I know that I am not the universal disabled experience. We need both options.
There may be folks with some types of disabilities who benefit from using a drive thru, but there are also folks with other types of disabilities who can't use a drive thru because they can't drive and who are materially harmed by the lack of walkability drive-thrus cause.
In fact, considering that there's nothing in the Americans with Disabilities Act that requires restaurants to have drive-thrus, and moreover that lawsuits regarding drive-thrus and people with disabilities tend to be almost universally about people who can't use the drive-thru being forced to use it rather than the other way around, I'm very confident that my position isn't ableist.
(And that's considering your argument at face value, which is pretty charitable considering how often it's made in bad faith.)
Not to try and take away from this tragedy but... that is the most open drive through with the least amount of obstructions I think I've ever seen, and those curbs are barely suggestions.
Cars can drive over stuff. Like curbs… and bushes.
And people, most often people.
And children. Frequently because you can't see them.
Am I missing something here, could she have not driven up on the curb to avoid the situation?
Imagine if instead of an escape lane, you park in front of the entrance, get out of your truck, enter through the front door and order at the count.
Where the staff preceeds to serve 10 customers in the drive through and several delivery orders before you
And now you’re trapped in a glass cage. /s
As a disabled person, I wish more restaurants had drive-throughs. Would be nice if I could get something other than crappy fast food without having to deal with going inside.
As a #FuckCars person, I absolutely support the need for cars and car infrastructure for many use cases, including yours. It's why I want to get as many of us who don't need to be in cars, out of them.
I'm confused, if i drive into a tacobell drive-thru and decided i want mcd instead, i have to wait the line too? That's so weird, here we could just drive away any time