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[–] Drusas@fedia.io -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Accidental ableism detected. I fucking love being able to get food without getting out of my car. I wish I could get something other than fast food this way, maybe a nice salad or sandwich.

[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Requiring a car to eat is ableist. Wheelchair user? Not allowed in the drive though for liability reasons. Blind? Epileptic? Not allowed to drive at all, thus not allowed to buy food because the dining room is closed in the late hours.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're not required to use a drive-through.

[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's very common to close dining rooms for drive-through only. It's so common that fast food places are trending to no dining room at all. E.g.

https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-defy-concept-opens-june-7-one-of-the-most-innovative-drive-thru-experiences-yet

[–] Drusas@fedia.io -1 points 3 days ago

I appreciate that, but that is a separate discussion. I just want the availability of non-horrible food for those of us who struggle to get out of the car.

Before I became disabled, I walked or took public transit basically everywhere. Having to use a car and struggling with getting in and out and walking around has made things a lot less available for me. I know I'm not the only one just as I know that I am not the universal disabled experience. We need both options.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

There may be folks with some types of disabilities who benefit from using a drive thru, but there are also folks with other types of disabilities who can't use a drive thru because they can't drive and who are materially harmed by the lack of walkability drive-thrus cause.

In fact, considering that there's nothing in the Americans with Disabilities Act that requires restaurants to have drive-thrus, and moreover that lawsuits regarding drive-thrus and people with disabilities tend to be almost universally about people who can't use the drive-thru being forced to use it rather than the other way around, I'm very confident that my position isn't ableist.

(And that's considering your argument at face value, which is pretty charitable considering how often it's made in bad faith.)