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Ford is set to become the first to use LFP batteries in a mainstream EV in the US, starting with its $30,000 midsize pickup.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Just make an affordable hatchback EV what the hell I hate this country FFS.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Well ok, but I bet it won't look like a car-of-the-future slapped together from sheet metal for a cheesy sci-fi movie.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

That sub headline is horribly wrong and Electrek should have known better.

Many OEMs have used LFP batteries in the cars.

These seem to be the first US made LFPs in a car, as before those were only made in China.

[–] LemmingLemur@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Chevy already uses LFP batteries in their '27 EVs...

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

So long as Ford doesn't botch this like they did with the lightning, it'll be great. With the lightning, they stopped letting regular people buy the base model unless you were a fleet manager. Even then, when the dealers got the base models they were marking them up $30k over MSRP (during and shortly after covid).

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but later the dumped them to anyone way below MSRP. Dealers gouged everyone around 2020-22, all companies.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

I was trying to buy one in Jan 2023

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Gotta love the US. Here in Canada it’s illegal to sell over MSRP. There are a TONNE of Lightnings in my area. Now when I get one will have to be used unfortunately. Really sad.

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That didn’t really stop Canadian dealers from being scummy. I saw a bunch of “used” lightnings that were ~2 mo old and had ~2,000 km on them, being sold well above MSRP.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

Strange....they dropped the price on brand new ones so low a friend bought one for his household and one for his business in 23.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Strange. Several of the dealers around here had dozens of them sitting new on the lots.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Chevy has some EV silverados that look good on paper. I've never seen reports on how they do in the real world though. If the minimum price wasn't so high I'd have looked closer to replace my last truck. (maybe in a few years)

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

We need the Hilux BEV here.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I really don’t get why they did that. They marked up the Maverick Hybrids too and we ended up getting a more expensive Mazda rather than a Maverick because the markup was so much that the Mazda was cheaper out the door. Not even around Covid either, this was the summer of 24.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I ended up just buying a Bolt EUV '23 to give to my kids when they start driving and I'll just wait on the used market for me to get a light duty pickup for weekend projects. I get some looks pulling a trailer with my Bolt though, lol. Besides the Bolt did give me a good idea of what EV ownership is like and what I really want on my next EV for road trips; faster fast charge. 10-97% in 9 minutes sounds like a dream compared to my 10-80% in just over an hour in my Bolt.

[–] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Basically an electric Maverick?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Sure looks like it

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Honestly what I’d love to see is more classic vehicles get remade as EVs. Like the VW Bus, could you imagine if they brought back the Bel Air as an EV? It would sell like crazy. That’s how they need to go about getting EVs popularized in the US

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s the one I was talking about above. I was saying I want more of that, but like classic cars like the ‘57 Chevy Bel Air. I’d buy one in a heartbeat if they made one.

Or like could you imagine if they went backwards on the trend of giant trucks and started making smaller classic body trucks, like if they remade the ‘95 Ford Lightning or brought back the El Camino? Smaller vehicle, lighter body, further range on battery and it’d look fucking clean

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 18 hours ago

How old are you? The BelAir is just a bloated Detroit tank.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Uh, VW already tried that and it flopped.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

Because it had poor interior room and a stupid price. Exact opposite of the vanagon.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

It's because of the price. I would've bought one already of it didn't cost so damn much.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Idk. I’ve seen a few, but it’s also a bus so I can see the lack of appeal. Minivans haven’t been popular for sometime. Try a more popular classic body and the reception would be wildly different.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

In Ontario, there is a 14 month waiting list for a Sienna. The only other option is the Chrysler Pacifica and people would rather wait a year than drive that turd.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

I think it's more likely to have flopped because it's a $60k+ car with less range and barely faster charging than the (until recently) $20k Chevy bolt, and it's big appeal would be road trips that it can't competently handle. If they had sold it at a price competitive with its actual competition, e.g. other minivans, and/or if it had decent range it probably would have done better.

[–] nerv@fedinsfw.app 0 points 2 days ago

You're thinking about the VW Bus, now presented as the Buzz?

Unsurprising.

It was never about revamping the classic, in its concept, but capitalizing on nostalgia.

By contrast, Renault brought back their legendary Model 5 and regardless the car being a behemoth compared to the original, it captured and delivered a new car built on a nostalgic concept.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Oh fuck me! An all electric, or even hybrid 57 bel air? I just jizzed my pants at the idea

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Just in time for BYD to start shipping sodium battery powered that are cheaper.

[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Looks like its still lacking a did cent sized bed. Hopefully they start giving bed/cab size options for these EVs.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

It's ridiculous. Maxxus T90 similarly only offer version with long cab and short bed. This way the manufacturers ensure that nobody whose like me and actually uses a pickup to transport stuff won't buy it.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“Pickup”, it’s a sport cute missing some roof.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (13 children)
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[–] Dustin03@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So will hybrids not be a thing in 5-10 years? I bought a new hybrid Camry I can't do electric because I live out In the country and can't use public chargers. I'm just curious how this is gonna effect the market down the line when I go to sell it hopefully it keeps its value like most Toyota products

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