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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

How do you test a reading level? Like for me it was always you either can read and understand or you can’t. What differentiates reading levels from grade to grade?

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[–] 8bittech@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Me Fail English? That's unpossible!

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah we elected one in to the presidential office too

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Not surprising h their president can hardly read

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.

When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?

There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.

Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, no shit. gestures generally toward the DC area

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, people make more of this than it is. I say that as someone whoes reading level in the 8th grade was rated "post-High School" in tests. Though IIRC, that particular test wasn't considered accurate past a 10th grade reading level or so. Suffice it to say, though, I was always rated at least a few grade levels higher than my actual grade level when it comes to reading.

If you pick up examples of post-High School writing, you'll find it's hard to read. Basically, check any abstract on a paper for a technical field. It'll be full of field-specific jargon and long sentences. Copy and paste it into a writing assistant like Hemmingway, and it will scream at you to simplify the sentence structure.

Converting to terms of Lexile level, Fellowship of the Ring has a rating of 860L. By a conversion chart, we would expect 50% of students to be able to read it by the spring of 4th grade. Even the bottom 10% of students can read it by the beginning of 10th grade.

That's a relatively hard book; harder than what most fiction asks of you. Of Mice and Men, which is on plenty of High School reading lists, only has a Lexile level of 630L. Conversely, Romeo and Juliet can go up to 1260L (though this varies depending on the editing of different editions).

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

87.4% graduate high school, then people stop being forced to read books and those who never liked reading get out of practice

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm curious what you think graduating high school has to do with being able to read.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

It's the cut off point where folks generally stop being forced to read things more complex than IDK a Wendy's menu.

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[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] BioDriver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

And 21% of American adults are illiterate

[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

The fact that some replies don't understand the title of the article and some are trying to explain it is funny af to me, I'm sorry 😂

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

That's good news! ... it means they're improving! USA! USA! USA!

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

knew an old man who couldn't read. he could write phone numbers in a notebook and remembered who it was by where it was written. no names. Fort Worth 1980.

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