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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

For Masayoshi Son, the Boston Dynamics exit looks small beside SoftBank's current AI infrastructure campaign. The Wall Street Journal reported in April that SoftBank is forming Roze AI, a new venture meant to use artificial intelligence and robotics to build physical infrastructure, including data centers. Tom's Hardware, citing the Financial Times, reported that Son is aiming for a $100 billion valuation for Roze and a public listing as soon as this year. That puts the $325 million Boston Dynamics proceeds in perspective. SoftBank is not walking away from robotics as an idea. It is moving toward robots as part of the AI buildout, tied to data centers, energy, land and construction.

To me that sounds like it might really be their plan. But it also seems like a shit plan.

They are already on the hook for such an insane amount of datacenter debt, now they sink even more debt into robots under the theory those might help with the first batch of debt? The timeline will never work out. Until autonomous robots are helpful on chaotic construction sites, maybe in 5 years at the soonest, the LLM craze will have gone bust.

[–] stolig@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh finally! An ai robot that will do my dishes while I create art

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

An ai robot that will do my dishes while I ~~create art~~ doom scroll memes

FTFY

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

okay fine i can't afford the instruments i want but that's not my fault

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Artists always find a way, people will create stuff from literal garbage found for free. Money may facilitate it, making it easier or more convenient, but honestly "lack of tools" is more often lack of will to execute and just using the lack of tools as an excuse.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

no like, i specialize in a specific instrument that costs more than a car. i have been finding a way, but i am sick of it i want my own instrument for the first time in like 50 years. going around begging every few years to find a place to play sucks.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Which instrument is that? A pipe organ?

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

If you truly have a desire to get something out there, you find a way and acquire the skills to do so without having a fortune. You're intentionally limiting yourself to a single artistic outlet, and that also becomes your excuse because that's what you "specialize in". But it's only you keeping you from having a different artistic outlet.

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Or maybe, just maybe he wants to play with his instrument of choice instead of another "artistic outlet".

That "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps" crap was supposed to be a sarcastic saying, not meant as real advice.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

None of what I'm saying is "pulling yourself up by the bootstrap". It's all about adapting to provide maximum happiness for yourself instead of imposing limits on yourself for no real reason.

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 6 points 19 hours ago

An ai robot that will do my dishes while I create ~~art~~ ~~doom scroll~~ memes

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 39 points 1 day ago

That's definitely not a sign that Softbank runs out of money

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It seems trivially easy to make a robot that worships the lord and unlocks blessings, sends prayers when those are needed (& regular folks are too busy) has anyone tried this?

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is brilliant, assuming a deity who doesn't mind outsourcing of prayers, and grants buffs!

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 points 15 hours ago

Omg ok so this gave me an idea for a young adult novel where there’s a robot uprising and the guy who programmed all the robots is your average godfearing guy who loves Jesus and doesn’t talk back to his mom even when she’s a little overbearing and so anyway based on something his mom told him he decides when he’s inventing all the robots that he will put in a subroutine that makes the robots kneel before the cross and eventually somebody figures it out and tries to stop the metal ones from taking over but it doesn’t work and the guy figures it’s because they didn’t hold the cross as a “true believer” with real faith etc so in the end he makes a glowing cross and leads the people to stop the robots because he gets on TV and they see the cross and all stop their killing and kneel, but was it because of true faith or because the cross had to be glowy?(that’s the moral ambiguous part that the teens who read the book will discuss at their youth groups and stuff) anyway this idea will be huge like Left Behind series

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

What do you think youth ministry is for?

[–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Every religion ever.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 points 15 hours ago

B~~A~~LESSED

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

keep up, chinese are waay ahead of you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_wheel tell the president about narrowing prayer gap immediately

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

yeah but are these steam powered? and do they produce kebab?

the turks have mastered engineering and they did it like 500 years ago. we will not top their triumph.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think we need to bring about robot religions and robot gods

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

we already have robot kebab. it is inevitable

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 points 15 hours ago

Crumbs, I guess I din’t think about it that much

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)
[–] plyth@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

3 billion valuation sounds low. Is Tesla more likely to deliver?

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago

Does their CEO even DO Ketamine? How many outlandish promises have they made recently? Have we even seen ONE "Roman" salute at a government function?

How are we even supposed to determine a valuation?

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

I used to work across the street from Boston Dynamics and would regularly see them testing robots in their parking lot & surrounding grassy/hilly areas. At one point they actually gave a bunch of folks in my company a tour of their labs. I still keep tabs on them from time to time because I find what they do absolutely amazing.

From what I’ve seen of the past 15 years or so of watching them I believe that Boston Dynamics is well in front of Tesla when it comes to robotics. Especially when you see gaffes by Tesla like that video that seems to show their robot was actually being controlled by a person wearing a VR headset.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thats definitely not a valuation youd expect for a company that had any chance of delivering. General purpose humanoid robots are the other half of the AI-singularity-permanent oligarchy vision: data centers to replace knowledge workers and robots to replace physical labor, then...I dont know, fly off to Mars or something?

Anyway, if there was a chance they were close to producing a robot that could actually function as a human analog they should be pushing a trillion dollar valuation in this market.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You assume that the market is rational. I think we left that road some decades ago.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The market is people. People have never been rational.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

Market is like, what, couple thousand humans? Rest is bots.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One thing I haven’t understood with BD is why they haven’t thrown tremendous amounts of computing horsepower behind ONE humanoid robot to make it almost human, just to show it’s possible, then to slowly eat away at the costs. Just like has been done with AI and datacenters. BD robots are cool but clearly not at all intelligent so they’ve been stuck in this zombie state for decades now.

I think the newer robots companies actually might try to have humanoid robots powered by massive AI datacenters and make them “intelligent.” That’s the approach at least.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

I think youve answered your own question. They, and everyone else making humanoid robots, have almost certainly tried. The fact that they are still having actors control their demos using VR systems tells you how well those tests went.