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The post was just another circle jerk about moral purity, someone asked honestly if op thought anyone who had been in the military could be redeemed and the op stated boldly that no veteran should ever be allowed a “position of power” in the movement. I had always felt that a true socialist movement for revolution was about building class solidarity and fraternity. I very much disliked this exclusionary position. 

I wrote a response that I thought demonstrated how damaging the idea that only those who could arrive at the truth of class consciousness perfectly were deserving leadership was contrary to the very idea of class rule. How poisonous it was to equate those who by benefit of birth or luck had a path to socialism laid out before them; for whom every weed was pulled free, and every branch broke back. Who never struggled under the system, or starved for truth in its schools, led blindly by those they trusted into a life they hardly understood. Only those lucky few could be trusted to lead a movement made up of all the people, to speak with every voice, even those they clearly do not respect or understand.

It was at this point that I signed off to feed goats and stack some fresh hay bales, expecting (naively) to come back to spirited discussion. Instead, I learned I’d been banned for violation of rule 4: No capitalist apologia, anti-socialism, or liberalism. I couldn’t see how anything I’d said was anything I was being accused of, but there was no appeal. My critique of OPs moral purity gatekeeping was deleted, and I was permanently silenced. 

That means I can’t go on to share what I planned to say next. I can’t tell OP why I disagreed with them so strongly. How just four days ago, and not for the first time mind you but once again recently I had the opportunity to talk a young man out of joining the service. I didn’t accuse him of wanting to kill babies, that would be the wrong approach as his father served and I’d just be attacking his respect for his father. And I didn’t throw Capital at him either; he’s just not ready for that. I simply shared my experiences of what it was really like to be owned by the state. How the recruiters lied about everything, about how even getting an “easy” post was a lie, how every post led to mental damage, disfigurment, or death. About how they will do medical experiments on you, untested vaccines and more, and how those who refused were punished severely and jailed for refusing orders. It was my opportunity to bend back that branch, to pull that weed and guide someone towards a better future.

But that isn’t all I have to offer, right? Sure, I keep my rifle clean and my kit stocked, but I’m an old man now and my experience is in managing logistics and teams, in running a business, and using my empathy, experience, and politic to coordinate with other people and interests. Is it true that in the current zeitgeist all I can ever hope to do is serve under someone else's boot? If that is the case, then perhaps this isn’t the class struggle I thought it was. 

  Is this a shitpost? I don’t know, please feel free to tell me what a piece of shit I am and how I'm unredeemable or whatever. I’m tired boss.

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[–] CommieKhinkali@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Would you have the same attitude toward the idf and israelis in general? I sure as hell wouldnt. Sure military personnel are very necessary in a socialist revolution, but i think most of the usian military is like graham platner, they just want benifits for themselves and dont give a shit about anyone outside of their borders. Theres a very small chance that youre gonna debate someone like that over to be a communist.

[–] CommieKhinkali@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And tbf getting banned from reddit is really easy. I got permad when i suggested to use second amendment on a trump post. Im on my second account and got a 7 day ban for basically saying fuck all zionists. Reddit is a zionist lib pro status quo western supremacist platform.

[–] ComradeSasquatch@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 days ago

My account was premabanned as well. A user in a bike sub was assaulted by someone who parked their BMW in the bike path. As retaliation, the cyclist folded the BMW's mirror in, as it designed to do. The owner retaliated by assaulting them. The cop did nothing, no charges for the assault, because the guy was allegedly a member of some crime organization. I suggested, if that person parks like that again, to vandalize the car. It was my position that property damage was fair compensation for physical assault. Reddit didn't like that. They called it "violence".

[–] Malkhodr@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've technically been banned and unbanned from LSC (not been banned again), though my reason was fair I'll admit. I told a fascist to walk into traffic and got permabanned, but a mod ended up lifting it and just warning me not to do it again and I gave my word. I'm trying to not be as toxic online, and have made good progress, but I'll admit the "kys" trigger instinct is still there, albeit much more muted than before.

I just gave very little tolerance for fascists and zionists, I prefer propagating to socsems and baby leftists.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah I got banned from LSC once for a kind of milquetoast "Give her the benefit of the doubt" comment on a post making fun of a protestor at I think the women's day march like 7 years ago? And you can call it cringe or whatever but I think I was well within the acceptable sphere of discourse. And in fairness, they did unban me after I messaged the mods

[–] snowfal@lemmy.zip -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've always felt like lsc was too trigger-happy with their bans. You were in the right. No one's gonna convince the American people to listen to them by ostracizing veterans, and the American left has completely and utterly failed to get the American people to listen to them for decades. The Chinese knew that educating the prior emperor and winning him over to socialism would be a huge victory for legitimacy because of how powerful his status was, and these dumbies think that the key to American socialism is to ostracize a category of people considered borderline sacred to the average American. Americans will be far more willing to listen to a veteran explain the realities of imperialism than some dog-walking redditor.

[–] ViolentPacifist@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago

How about you fuck off with your tailism