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[–] abc@suppo.fi 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This does not in any way prove that LLMs aren't sentient. Feels like a joke paper. I mean not a completely unserious one but one that's has been written with a lot of smirk.

The actual author explains it way better though: https://adriandewynter.substack.com/p/if-llms-have-human-like-attributes

I obviously didn't understand everything, but it seems to me that he built an LLM in AoE2 goats and basically said "look, obviously this isn't concious" and that "obviously" is doing much more work than it should. Reductio ad absurdum.

Obviously the LLM built in AoE2 goats is conscious.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

Look, if the AoE goats are as evil as real goats then the real danger to humanity has been created here, not by the big AI players. Fear for all we hold dear, comrades.

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

I made a cat-powered MLEM in a game that has cats in it to prove that those furry bois are pettable

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] abc@suppo.fi 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Simulated goats in the game Age of Empires II.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok having never played this one, how is the AI in this case powered by the in game goats?

[–] abc@suppo.fi 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check out the circuits here: https://adewynter.github.io/notes/aoe2-circuits

Apparently, he builds a functioning (probably a very basic) LLM from those.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yea I was just reading through that. Thanks for the direct link. He conveniently leaves out any details of the size of the “LLM” he “trains”. Seems like a cool science experiment but a huge leap to extrapolate the premise from.