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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 56 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, we need an archived link to this post. Anyone can help, everyone has an hour to post it. Rule 6.

[–] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 36 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 121 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Actually seems like a really cool practice to allow anyone to pickup the ball on correction in case OP wasn't online.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Especially with an hour time limit. I've come back to replies from 3, 4, 5 hours ago and I'm on here pretty regularly.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago
  1. Dems should only run candidates in NY.
[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Turns out the establishment dems were the real conservatives all along. Imagine that. 9_9

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, from the outside looking in the USA has a conservative party and a fascist party. What America says is left wing politics the rest of the world calls centrist.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

exactly. The Overton window is shifting back to normalcy, but the "centrists" still want to call themselves "liberals" because they have morally normal views on the wedge isssues.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

No, we don't want to be fucking led, we are not sheep.

We want our elected officials to do the job they were elected to do, a job they all keep promising to do, a job for which the position exists to do, to work for the interests of the people. Elected officials are public servants, not leaders and should be following the will of the people, not telling the people what that will should be.

Mamdani's policies aren't him leading, it's him serving, serving the interests of the people and doing what we have wanted politicians to be doing this entire time. That you confuse serving, with leading, is a weird fucking rich kid perception of what being an elected official is and it's exactly why rich ppl shouldn't hold office.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 34 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Leadership isn't herding or commanding or necessary even guiding. It certainly doesn't need to be rooted in authority. Leadership can be inspiration, knowledge, observation, deference and delegation. It can mean being a role model or a teacher. I'd argue that the people who are the most effective leaders are the ones who enable others first, and lead by example. Barking orders has awful return on investment compared to building people up.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

This dude leaderships. That coulda been right outta my army leadership course, which was surprisingly less about barking orders and more about fulfilling requirements and enabling awesome.

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[–] dellish@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

They are, if the primary was for lower house seats, representatives. Their job (in theory) is to represent the collective wants and needs of their constituents to congress and vote or introduce bills accordingly. Unfortunately in most Western democracies this little fact seems to get forgotten by those who are elected and party politics tends to take over.

[–] samara@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

don’t want to be fucking led

Unless you are going out there and campaigning or operationally actually doing some-fucking-thing; you absolutely do want someone to lead and fulfill your desires. If you personally are not making it happen then you want someone else to take the lead on it.

You are allowed to have a belligerent sense of independence; just don't fool yourself.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

If I pay a mechanic to fix my car, that ain't them leading. If I hire a politician to enact my will, that isn't them leading. You don't have to be the one personally doing the job.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

!aidetector

[–] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

7 is the one a lot of people on the left will miss is targeted at them. Cynicism is the path to defeat, pragmatism is the path to actual change, and it almost always routes through the status quo, not around it. Mamdani didn't sit around bitching about the DNC, nor did he try to run as a third party. He met voters where where they are, and in NYC that's the Democratic party. Now he looks like a king maker. This took him barely a year, during which time showed that the establishment's power to enforce preferences is actually far more limited than many believe.

[–] timeghost@lemmy.world 43 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I can smell the LLM a mile away.

It's not the words, it's the structure.

It's not thing A, it's thing B.

Thing C is nothing. Thing D is everything.

Big list generated from the prompt "establishment democrats are bullshit and NYC mayor proves it!!!"

[–] Juice@midwest.social 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Incredible how "its not x its y" is being weaponized against critics of the establishment. Like, I really couldn't give a shit about Hunter Biden, he's a joke. Also fuck AI, I wouldn't defend it.

But what you're describing is a teaching method. Just because it gets aped by ai doesn't mean all comparisons are AI. Paulo Friere uses it heavily in his pedagogical method. It was also the name of a book series on teaching methods.. Both were written years, even decades, before the invention of generative text.

Its a basic way of explaining complicated concepts, where you not only have to describe what something is, but what it isn't. You are using a negating method by saying that the text of this tweet is actually not worth considering, because it was generated by AI. Its rhetorical sophistry, presented without evidence, to create confusion and cheapen people's ability to explain or understand complicated concepts, and criticize our own reality.

I dont agree with all of his points, but your argument is cheap and socially toxic.

[–] timeghost@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely. You're right to call me out on that. It's not helpful, it's socially toxic. Also, and this is where truth combines with facts to create understanding &emdash; Hunter used Claude to write that post.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Well in the interest of good faith, this is the most coherent thing ive ever seen from Hunter, so I think either had AI write it or some wonk wrote it for him

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want to be led. I want you to do the will of the fucking people, and not the will of the dollar.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, that was the line that got to me too.

People want to be followed. Maybe there are times when the politician sees the future before the people and needs to lead. But, right now it seems like both major US political parties are stuck in the past.

What Mandami is doing is listening, not leading. That's why he's popular. He has some ideas, like city-run grocery stores. They're probably good ideas. However, what's making him really popular is doing things like making sure the streets were cleared after the snowstorms and filling potholes. That's not leadership. That's simply listening to the voters and fixing the priority issues.

[–] pedantichedgehog@sh.itjust.works 80 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

And also: capitalism is failing the majority of people by continuing to funnel wealth to those who already have money. Voters are offered a choice between two options, neither of which actually want to solve this, because both major parties are controlled by wealthy corporate donors. The two-party system prevents any third party, no matter their platform, from having any chance at election.

Democratic socialist candidates got elected in NY because Mamdani is demonstrably helping people in actual, tangible ways. The most famous example is fixing potholes. This is a breath of fresh air for voter and is the same "sewer socialism" strategy used in the first half of the 1900s in wisconsin, which focused on pragmatically improving life for the general public...famously by improving the sewer system.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 19 points 9 hours ago

AI writing.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

“Don’t fear the base, court it…”

Take a lesson from the Republicans.

Edit: current Democrat “base” is their corporate donors. So I have to qualify my statement with the idea that a social liberal/progressive will be courting the citizens, not Citizens United.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please stop boosting this ai slop by a genocide supporting dude. Hate this recent boosting of every post of Hunter Biden's.

[–] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Seriously why are we reposting anything from hunter biden. Im sure theres a number of more relevant and proper progressives with better insight and analysis of the elections .

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