We need to bring back actual learning. Sorry, but an accredited source will always be better than anything emerging from nazi owned X.com.
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No, don't just blindly believe professionals either.
Cause some of them a assholes who try to sow discord for their own personal profit.
Like Andrew Wakefield, who started the whole "Vaccines cause autism!" fraud, because he wanted to sell shit that would benefit from the distrust he was creating and thought undermining faith in existing medicine would be a great marketing ploy.
and theres been tons of famous, formerly reputable doctors since, that have put down their ethics and picked up the snake oil since then. Like Mehmet Oz.
I have had pharmacists refuse to hand over the script after asking a few questions because it turned out the prescribing doctor was actually very incredibly dangerously wrong.
That's the reason why Pharmacology is a tough degree. Nurses also cross check MD mistakes every day.
It's not elitism. It's fucking fact. Someone trained in a discipline knows more about said discipline than someone who isn't
Not to say that you're wrong, but this is a dangerous argument. There are a FUCKTON of antivax nurses and numerous antivax doctors.
Yogo moms are a universally bad source, but even 'credible' sources suffer the appeal to authority fallacy .
It's not hard to buy an MD and they can be bought cheap, especially in the UK.
👀 Virology student with ChatGPT Plus subscription.
IMHO "Appeal to Authority" is a very bad mindset, but conspiracy theory thinking is worse.
The funniest part about conspiracy theories is that, while yes, professionals can absolutely be wrong, but how is it better just to make up random nonsense and see what sticks? Preaching critical thinking and then failing to engage in it is the peak of comedy.
You're talking about the logical fallacy. Or maybe you're not, I don't know. It's only a bad mindset when the authority isn't qualified.
The problem right now is there's nothing but false claims to authority. Hence the original post.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: this kind of "elitism" is literally just division of labor which is basically required for a modern society to function.
Why don't we structure our political systems around the scientific method? That is all of the policies are testable and the goal is the optimization of the HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Why employ policies based on beliefs or feelings when we can just test them.
Sure, as soon as politicians have to have minimal education requirements.
It's a tough problem. Those who are intelligent typically do not want to be politicians. A problem as old as society, the best rulers are typically the last people who would want the position.
Because then the capital class wouldn't be able to control us, and steal the value of our work from us. If governments ran on tested and proven data, then we would have wind and solar farms, vast public transportation networks, infrastructure for cycling as transportation, national healthcare, 2-3 years of paid family/maternal leave for the birth/placement of a new child, and low cost post secondary education. Drops mic
Most likely. I think we've lost the plot globally. Society was meant to increase the quality of life of humans. In the origin when a society or more so a town failed to benefit people could just transition back into hunter gatherers and leave.
I think the other part of this is we don't need to be beholden to a political philosophy devised by people who were essentially unconcerned by the scientific method or not even aware of it in their time. That is it really doesn't matter if a policy is quote unquote socialist or capitalist or anything if it measurably optimizes the HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact better than another policy. A lot of this political philosophical infighting seems more like a divide and conquer tactic than people collectively working towards a more fruitful society. I think we can step back from myopic world views and embrace a multimodal system that's a little of whatever literally works the best.
That's just what mega-corporations are doing right now. And you can see the results of that. IMHO it's not that easy.
I don't think E-corps are structured similarly, that is if they are using a scientific method to discern their policies it's towards the end goal of increasing profits and market dominance more so than human and environmental wellbeing. So you may be right in one aspect but the target is totally different.
It's only going to get worst. I am already seeing those at work double check anything you say against an LLM and they come back with some version of well ChatGPT says... They don't realize how much of a sycophant LLMs can be and if you ask a question a certain way it will just agree with you and find some kind of BS data to back you up.
Look, I have no qualifications at all, but I did read a blog post. So I’m pretty sure I know what I’m talking about
Well at least you've read something which puts you ahead of most anti-vaxxers, who just rely on Facebook videos.
I hate to disagree with you, but I'be honestly got a feeling and I can't think of a better reason than that.
Not just influencers, but also politicians and news media. I have a master's degree in statistics, and it's not at all uncommon for politicians and media to misrepresent scientific results. Correlation does not equal causation. If a study hasn't been peer reviewed, I wouldn't say that it proves anything just yet. Studies on a non-representative sample aren't generalizeable to the population as a whole. And so on..
And science is more about disproving things anyway. It's more of a "this is the best we can tell right now, given the information and observations we currently have"
Not "zomg vaccines cause puppy deaths! My dog died after getting hit by a car but wouldn't have if he hadn't been vaccinated! See? I proved it!"
As someone who is an expert in one area and as dependent as anyone else in others, and who also hates appeals to authority -
To me, the correct stance is that any should be able to question things that don't make intuitive sense or that one suspects might be a perspective motivated by financial considerations instead of expertise.
Note that I said question. Not invent your own replacement fever-dream explanation.
Questions require good-faith attempts to find information and understand.
Not pitch something where its main virtue is that it makes ignorance feel good actually.
I generally agree, but there is a level of ignorance where you don't even really know what questions to ask, and subjects complicated enough that you just aren't equipped to understand an answer without needing a lot of background education first because they just aren't intuitive at all by nature. At that point, is there really much value in asking the question?
Determining where that line is is hard sometimes, but I do think it's there.
Asking questions doesn't hurt. If the answer still confuses someone, they then need the humility to admit it instead of covering their ears and yelling "I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
This breaks down pretty quickly though because laypeople fundamentally don't engage with the world scientifically. The default mode is "can I believe this" but science requires "have I excluded everything else". The former feels like the job is done, so why put in more work?
There's a reason peer reviewed studies are so important.
It's literally other people with knowledge on the subject questioning the results of a study until everyone agrees to the conclusion.
It's not just one person pulling something out of their ass and saying "Look! This thing!" and everyone just going along with it. It's questioned and proven multiple times.
There are many peer reviewed studies subsequently retracted. The problem is most journals do not value the expertise or time of reviewers. Not a perfect system.
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