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[–] onceandfuturealice@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why I have a vertical mouse and I built a split vertical keyboard! a split vertical mechanical keyboard

[–] klar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have tried the vertical keyboard setup but I quickly found it painful to keep my wrists off the desk (plus the two sides kept sliding...). How do you manage?

[–] onceandfuturealice@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the bottom of the photo, there are two wrist rests I built out of some spare wood and a wrist rest off of Amazon that I cut in half with a saw and then stitched/glued closed so it doesn't look like hell.

The keyboard halves are stuck to some phone stands using an adhesive Magsafe ring, and the stands are stuck down to the black steel plate with some flat magnets and grippy silicone. The entire thing breaks down in seconds and I can store it to bring to the office. The steel plate is the most annoying thing to transport.

Happy to answer other questions!

[–] klar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh that's clever! I will definitely try with wrist rests, thanks!

The steel plate is the most annoying thing to transport.

Yeah I can imagine. Maybe you could keep a second one on-site, that way you'd only have to move the keyboard. :)

[–] onceandfuturealice@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah exactly. I kept a second one on-site until I went 95% remote.

The phone stands also let me get precise adjustment on the height of the keyboards, so they feel like they're lined up:

[–] Igris@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's kinda crazy until you realize it's not.

[–] onceandfuturealice@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It completely eliminated the pain in my elbow and forearm that I would get while typing on a flat keyboard

[–] Igris@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

It helps, there's no doubt. Happy for you that you were able to get rid of the pain.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

https://ergodriven.com/products/the-vertical-handshake-mouse

No joke, I am genuienly shilling this thing unprompted, I absolutely love it.

$30.

Toggleable DPI.

Multiple custom bindable buttons that are done entirely on the mouse itself, no required software for your pc, so its compatible with anything.

2.4 ghz, or BT, or wired, whatever you want.

The literal only downside to this thing is... it could have a fancier pantsier polling rate, if you also wanted to use it for competetive gaming.

But honestly you'd have to be in like the top 10-20% of fps competitive gamers for that to make any difference.

This thing is fucking magic, and a steal at $30, I can only imagine it isn't more popular because there's no marketing budget behind it.

EDIT:

I guess I should also note that if you have large hands, this may not work for you so well. Small to Medium? Works great!

But if you have big hands, yeah it may be too small, and unfortunately I think they only offer the one size.

From index tip to thumb pad, my hand is about 7" or ~18cm, ... if your hand is maybe larger than 8" or ~21cm, your bear mitts might be a bit much for this mouse, but if your hand is smaller than that, please join the cult lol, your wrist will thank you.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course it's designed for right handed people

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apologies, genuienly, even though I'm just a fanboy for this thing.

Like I've ... I've literally begged this company to diversify and expand from this mouse model.

I suggested they do like a more expensive 'gamer' version that has a higher polling rate, a left handed version, maybe figure out how to do swappable body kit parts to dial in the kind of grip you want.

I genuienly do not understand how they can make and sell this thing at $30. Nothing comparable exists in that price range, that I am aware of.

They're sitting on an incredible design they could potentially expand on.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's just such a shame that so many "ergonomic" things are designed for right handed people, rather than being hand agnostic.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Unfortunately, you'd have to actually make a left and right hand version... 'hand agnostic' wouldn't work with this kind of design.

Imagine a non reversible hand agnostic glove.

Hope your thumb and pinky are identical, on each hand, just swapped.

Mirroring the entire hand isn't the same as a hand being symmetrical.

... you could perhaps try to model a mouse around a pistol grip or flight stick... not sure if that would be doable to work out to the correct wrist angles though?

Hrm.

Actually, a standard dildo with balls/flared base design might actually work as a kind of basic shape to start from...

... the balls would be the place the pinky side of your hand rests on... then you'd need symmetrical flaring/indentation where either thumb could go... make the left and right click and scroll wheel be along the ... would it be dorsal? side of the shaft, have a button or switch elsewhere that can flip button assignment and wheel orientation between left and right handed use. Scroll wheel is horizontal due to grip angle / both handedness.

Then I guess add more bonus buttons the thumb could use.

You'd also have to weight the bottom of this thing to prevent it from toppling, the whole thing would have to be fairly heavy.

And you'd have basically double the amount of buttons as per a particular handed variant...

... design is all about compromises, lol.

[–] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

can it horizontal scroll with the scrollwheel?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, no, vertical only.

Ok, actually, I just futzed around with the thing...

You can, apparently, bind a button to 'Horizontal Scroll', and what that does is make it so when that button is pressed, the mouse wheel now scrolls horizontally.

... I didn't even know it could do that lol.

Not sure if that meets your requirements.

[–] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

that absolutely does. thanks for checking!

[–] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It takes some time to get used to, but once it clicks its hard to go back to standard mouse.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

Once it clicks, eh?

You can literally bind a button to double click with this one, so theoretically the process should take half as long =P

My wife has the Logitech one and she loves it. I use a track ball myself.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a trackball version?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Not that I am immediately aware of no, not from this company.

Personally I'm not a trackball guy, not to knock it as a concept, I've tried and used a few... I just don't know much about em.

[–] schnurrbart@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That's a rat.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

For those with wrist and forearm pain they may vertical mice. My wife and I converted to them and they eliminated my pain completely.

Make* not may, oops

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there's at least one word missing there, but also your username suggests I should mistrust you on this matter.

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they just made a typo, may -> make

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, that also makes sense! Thank you.

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

BILLY MAKES HERE

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Switched a year or two ago and wanted one at work so I bought one for there too! They would have bought me one but very likely it would have cost a ton and sucked ass compared to my cheap $30 Zelotes vertical mouse. It's been a game changer!

Trackballs work for me. I use them almost exclusively. I just use a normal mouse for one system usually.

[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Ok, I installed buttons in my pet rat's ribcage and shoved an IR sensor up its ass. Anyone know where to get drivers for this thing?

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

So we should stop using the mouse and switch to rats?

[–] Una 1 points 21 hours ago

I have seen someone making a pencil case with in-built sharpener out off dead rats body, everything is possible.

[–] angband@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I have never had a problem with a normal mouse and keyboard. It is all the ergonomic ones that tire me out, or make me uncomfortable.

[–] anotherpos@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago

I want to buy the ergonomic one

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I wish there were mouse gloves where the tracking was on the middle finger tip, and I could press the middle, ring, or index fingertip on the desk for mouse clicks.

[–] AlteE@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of an old meme about searching for the "gaming mouse" in Google and Bing.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It's a custom taxidermy mouse mouse.

Mhh that grip reminds me of something...

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Ulna? More like ugh, na

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago

Going back in our very long human history there are probably more instances where a person held a rat like in the pic above than where a person was using a mouse like below. Therefore holding a rat is more natural. As a former owner of a pet rat, but also a modern computer user, my usage ratio of rat/mouse is probably something like 5/95 at this point while skewing towards the situation pictured below.