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Wikimedia Will Not Voluntarily Recognize Union a Supermajority of Its Workers Want (www.404media.co)
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[–] antonim@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

“We have heard a range of views from staff, including concerns from those who have felt pressured to support union efforts and those who are confused by the unionization process,” the foundation added in a frequently asked questions section. “We have also seen a misunderstanding around what the union can do for global staff and Wikimedia movement communities.”

LMAO, fuck off with this bullshit. I noticed WMF spokepersons love this vocabulary, everyone except for them is "confused", if you disagree with WMF's actions it's just a "misunderstanding".

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 59 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The egregious part of this is they have loads of money in their reserves, ask for donations every year in a misleading way like they’re on the brink of bankruptcy. And now they won’t even recognise their workers union.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 18 points 6 hours ago

Yes. I wish they would just guarantee hosting of wiki projects for 30+ years... But no they always ask money for their other projects...

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 hours ago

I’m still glad we have Wikipedia as a foundation instead of a publicly traded corporation. The fact that there are way worse offenders doesn’t exempt them from scrutiny, though.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Has there ever been a corporation or company that welcomed unions? Serious question

[–] Nickelalloy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My last company I worked for in Sweden even one of the bosses was in the Union, the whole company had a very friendly approach to the wokersunion even if a minor dispute occured here and there they were oftenly switly solved.

The Union is strong in my current company and the leadership does not see it as a threat.

Work morale is very high here and the company is extremely dynanic and solution oriented from top to bottom, and we are about 50 people. Also Scandinavia.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Scandinavia, going from viking pillaging to being the worlds example on how to be social and nice... You guys are fucking amazing

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, a company I worked for did. They were a mission-driven org that was established to reduce poverty in historically disadvantaged groups. Along the way they, like many mission-driven orgs, became so poorly managed that their employees got pissed at them and decided to form a union. The org voluntarily recognized them, and now gets kicked in the face every 3-4 years during negotiations because the org is still poorly run.

[–] minfapper@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago

Closest we've got is companies not actively union busting

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

I suppose co-ops?

Traditional company? Maaaybe some mom and pop no one has heard of. I wouldn't count on it.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 36 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Every corporation proving like always that it hates its workers and only exists for executive profit.

[–] Curiositymonger@reddthat.com 10 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Wikimedia is a not for profit foundation. Not a corporation.

[–] Carl@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 hour ago

Not-for-profit is still a corporation, and the distinction simply means that they need to reinvest profits back into the company. A for-profit company can sit on massive amounts of stockpiled wealth, while a not-for-profit needs to find ways to reinvest that back into the company. To be clear, they can still sit on a lot of money. But all of their money needs to be earmarked for something, instead of just being a rainy day fund.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

See: Susan G Coleman

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 3 hours ago

Being a non-profit doesn't make the org structure immune to greed.

I mean, Trump and kids had a non-profit.

[–] nychtelios@lemmy.sinistraverso.org 18 points 7 hours ago

This does not imply it is workers' owned or that it does not have ridiculously high payed managers.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 hours ago

Well if not because greed or shitty people in management, why oppose unionization?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 31 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Wikimedia Foundation announced it would not voluntarily recognize the union

Surprise, surprise. Of course not, unless there is explicit law requiring them to do so.

I mean, what did they expect? Normal case is that they have to fight and win first.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 4 hours ago

the law is that they have to recognize if a majority of workers vote to unionize in an National Labor Relations Board secret ballot, so in any case this is a formality

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 hours ago

Asking for recognition is considered a courtesy. It's a symbolic act to establish that management will be the ones standing in the way of the workers, not your union

[–] Tonuka@feddit.org 18 points 8 hours ago

Well you have to wonder if at a support so high Wikimedia couldn't skip the "fight and win" stage to earn some goodwill which might get them more favourable terms. In open confrontation, everyone loses. Takes energy away from everything else and generates a ton of bad publicity.