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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Honestly the one upside of this RAM crisis is that people are finally paying attention to how bloated modern software has gotten

1.2GB of ram to show a few images and numbers is patently insane though

[–] the_q@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

In chrome at work without an adblocker weather.com can hit 2GB for that tab alone.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Who uses these dumb ass apps?

Now this garbage is the bloatware we complain about.

We had Widgets with Win7 that had a lot of potential. They could've fixed the security problem those things had, instead they removed them entirely and gave us this garbage.

[–] Zidane@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

It was quite convenient when I last used windows 10 about a year ago

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

macOS still has the widgets 😉

They’re very nice and come in a bunch of different sizes. You can put them on the desktop or on the sidebar.

macOS has a pretty decent desktop/sidebar widget system.

As for the app, where I live, we get a lot of thunderstorms this time of year, so it’s nice to open up the app and get extended weather information once in a while because I don’t watch live TV, so I don’t get live weather reports from the news. The macOS weather app is very nice.

It’s also small and lightweight. I wouldn’t exactly call it “bloatwear”

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, wasn't talking about Mac here, but the MS implementation.

And anything more than tens of megabytes for an icon on the taskbar is bloatware. It's not like pulling this data is hard.

Additionally, I get that same data in a few megabytes on my phone. Why the hell does a desktop app need multiple orders of magnitude more ram, even considering the difference in environment?

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And anything more than tens of megabytes for an icon on the taskbar is bloatware. It's not like pulling this data is hard.

I agree. On macOS, the Weather app doesn’t run in the background. It’s a full desktop app. Desktop/sidebar weather widgets run in the background, but they only take about 25 MB total.

If you’re telling me that even the taskbar Weather app in Windows 11 takes almost a a gigabyte of RAM (or more??), that’s goddamn bananas.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

247MB of RAM sure isn't my idea of lightweight.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Indeed. 247 MB is four times as much RAM as is needed to use the full Adobe Premiere 6 video editor. And it is enough memory to run 30 instances of Word 97.

A weather app with images and backend querying can be made to run in ~20 MB RAM with proper optimalisation. The issue is that most developers don't optimize for memory use anymore. Things like data types, heap allocation and copies vs references used to be a primary concern of developers.

[–] finley@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)
[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Using standards from 30 years ago is hardly a reasonable expectation

lol. Lmao even

Also, that’s why the widgets only take about 25 MB of memory. The Weather app in macOS does a lot more than just the very basics.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's not an expectation, it's a reference. It's just a fact that software nowadays is not optimized for memory usage, regardless of the platform.

And yes, I'm pretty sure your weather app is fancy but come on man, a weather app is mostly a portal to show cloud data and is totally incomparable to a professional grade video editor, even one from 25 years ago.

The fact that you find it normal that displaying the weather takes up a quarter billion bytes of memory make me think you are relatively young and have never experienced anything other than the software of the past 10 years.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not an expectation, it's a reference.

A 30 year-old reference used to rationalize a logically fallacious argument.

And whatever your opinion may be of my weather app, a video editor from 30 years ago is no longer “professional grade”. Oh, and 30 years ago, avid was the professional editing. Suite of choice, followed closely by da Vinci resolve and Final Cut. No professionals used premier. I know, because 30 years ago, I was editing video professionally.

You clearly have some axe to grind, otherwise you wouldn’t be here on a post about a Windows Weather app that uses five times as much RAM as a macOS weather app and still be whining about the macOS weather app, constantly shifting the goalposts 30 years into the past in order to do so, and having to make up stories about how “young” I must be just to rationalize your shitty attitude.

Take it from someone in their late 40s: grow up.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why so emotional? We are talking about the memory usage of a weather app.

My point is about that 250 MB is a terrible amount of memory for such an application, and that such software isn't updated for memory regardless of the platform. Yes, the Windows one is the most terrible of all.

The fact that you are a video editor is not relevant, nor is the fact that you are older, but it is interesting to read about your past nonetheless. L

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why so emotional? We are talking about the memory usage of a weather app.

lol, you're the one throwing a tantrum over a weather app, using logical fallacies and insults to do so. what a joke.

go touch some grass kid. you're blocked.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Well, I apologize if saying that the remark about you being inexperienced triggered you. Though I must say your first reaction, literally laughing out loud at my contribution is also not the pinnacle of empathy.

This topic is about memory usage so let's stick to that. And blocking is up to you, as it affects your experience and not mine.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

It is always fun to compare system requirements for old software with new software.

The recommended amount of RAM to run the original Unreal Tournament game is 64MB.

Same goes for the original Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 game.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Considering everything it’s doing? That’s nothing. And the widget only uses 25 MB.

But keep shifting those goalposts…

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate on what goalpost I've shifted? You said it was lightweight, I didn't agree as I feel like 247MB is far too much for showing a weather forecast that was computed elsewhere.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

It has been my experience that one cannot reason a person out of a position they did not reason themselves into.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

How does this compare, ram wise, to curl wttr.in ?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Same on plasma with kweather. Uses ~250MB when i open the window. So ~4.8 times less than the windows 11 one.