For one thing, I don't consider Lemmy a place where normal/not tech savvy people hang out. For another I have found Apple users to be extremely entrenched in the ecosystem. I don't even think it's necessarily about the green bubbles or whatever. Primarily it seems to be about comfort and usability. They're used to Apple and the ecosystem so that's where they stay. That's their comfort zone.

So yes. They will complain about the things they don't like. That's normal and human, and it's generally how things get fixed. A closed mouth don't get fed and all that.

But also, where are we suggesting he switch to? Apple seems to have succeeded in locking this person into their walled garden. He makes app and services for Apple's ecosystem.

He can't just switch to android and continue to do that. He can't just switch to windows and now test anything. Even if he did switch to Windows, Windows has the same if not a worse problem.

He told you in his video why he will continue to buy Apple. Lots of people are in the same boat even if their reasons for sticking with one company over another are different at a granular level.

So, telling people to just stop isn't going to do much. Especially when you're not suggesting alternatives that are viable.

But even if you were, (and knowing that I wouldn't switch to Apple from Android because I never could get used to navigating an Apple phone when I had one for work), I doubt you're going to get the result you want.

Just look at the number of users who won't switch from Windows.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He didn't get addicted to Apple in a bubble. There have been people warning about Apple's walled garden for two decades, and the vast majority of people responded with indifference or mockery like it was a conspiracy theory.

The fact is, there is absolutely NO way out of most of the problems we have in the world without huge swathes of people admitting they're wrong. We have the solutions to basically every single endemic problem. It's not that we lack technology or solutions - the problem is people with fossilized erroneous habits and excessive egos.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Big lumber is cutting down rainforests so even though I've trained my whole life in wood working, having invested time and money into a tool set and work space for the purpose, someone online thinks I should stop complaining about the problems with Big Lumber and just quit being a woodworker all together.

That's what this sounds like.

I will fully admit that Apple has a walled garden. We have known that for decades. I understand that the sentiment is, "if you don't like it vote with your wallet". I even understand that there's a lot of value when thousands or millions of people do that all in one go.

But at the same time, asking someone to quit their trade because the platform is corrupt and you want to stick it to the man just doesn't work.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Then as a species, we're doomed. Sometimes the thing someone is doing is not sustainable and they just have to stop. There's no way around it.

If giving up using hair spray and certain AC gases was a voluntary thing people had to choose, the ozone layer would already be gone. People collectively almost NEVER do the right thing when responsibility is shared among many.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Show me where to buy a good phone with an hd screen around 5.5 inches that still has an aux port and I'm in

[–] the_q@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think the point is you just don't.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

But only negative reinforcement won't point anyone to what I want just away from I don't like at best, like when I was a kid and didn't know how explain that the mashed potatoes were too bland so I only said I didn't like them