They will say this is a proxy war but will say that Russia helping Iran isn't the same thing as a proxy war.
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Would Iran collapse without Russia's assistance? Can Ukraine afford to decline any form of help from NATO countries? These come to mind.
Uh-huh. Russia invades Ukraine... and the U.S. started the war with Russia? Logic is not strong with this one.
How can it be a war on Russia, they chose to invade. They can simply leave again at any time
history started on 2022. you clearly chose to be ignorant to the long history of nato's offensive expansionism.
Did it start in December 1994 when they signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances?
Or in 2014 when Russia violated it the first time?
You guys are pissed because one country can't keep a promise and the others are doing what they said they would do.
funny you mention 2014, the year the west did a coup and violated the agreement! nato is a fascist organization and you should stop pretending otherwise. it needs to be dismantled, along with the rest of the empires war machinery, you little nazi apologist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxL5E7-Nejc
Where's that coup the west did in 2014? You didn't link it.
And buddy a free country can join whatever organization they want. Russia is the one that didn't keep their end of the agreement
Also fuck Nazis. I'm not a fan of when America also swings its dick around and invades sovereign countries, either.
- Obama admitted to supporting and arming Neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalist groups like the Azov battalion in Ukraine to overthrow it's former pro-Russia govt, 2. Ukraine now has a pro-US, nazi-glorifying government with ultranationalism, anti-semitism, neo-nazi pogroms, and attacks on LGBT groups.
- Leaked transcripts show Victoria Nuland, a US diplomat in Ukraine, picking Yanukoviche's replacement in the coup.
- A leaked phone call of the Estonian foreign minister states that the famous Maidan sniper attack was actually ordered by the US-funded opposition. This means that Yanukovich's government was not behind the sniper attack, but somebody in the US coalition.
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_coup_d%27etat
here you have a link but you're not going to like it because it wasn't mouthfed to you by some western three letter agency. a free country does not join a nazi organization, fascism is the complete opposite of freedom or whatever bullshit you believe in. not one member of nato is a free country, they're either vassal states or perpetrators of imperialism. they either actively commit it or passively support it. you're to the left of fascism amigo, you're the one enabling them, so you cannot say with a straight face "fuck nazis".
i'd say it's more of a NATO proxy war against russia, with the US being a major stakeholder.
a proxy proxy war if you will
The US owns NATO.