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Great! Hope people more move away from Google Maps. OSM would be even better, but MapQuest is a good step away from the Monopoly of Google.
Edit: Just realized that in Google Maps the acronym for the Great Lakes is no longer “HOMES” but could now be known as “SHAME”.
If you've got a favorite replacement for the Google Maps mobile app, this would be a great place to tell people about it. I believe the world of Open Street Map (OSM) is likely to be a little intimidating, a little daunting, for the masses, so an easy starting point might be especially helpful.
Copy-pasting my own comment:
For using OSM on Android (edit: and iOS):
For contributing to OSM on Android:
The easiest way I've found to contribute local information is the iD editor on desktop; it's the one that pops up if you click 'Edit' on OpenStreetMap.org. It strikes a good balance between user-friendliness and power user stuff. For full-on power users, JOSM is a good option. And the easiest way to contribute in a limited way is StreetComplete, which will ask you questions about existing features (like "does this traffic signal have a walk button for pedestrians?")
The OpenStreetMap Wiki is a great general resource for using and contributing.
- I use StreetComplete for a more trimmed-down, gamified experience.
Another benefit for casual users is that StreetComplete doesn't require you to worry about the details of formatting your submissions, it simply asks you if this thing is here, or what are the hours of this business, or if there is a sidewalk or what is the address number on this building and things like that, then it submits a correctly formatted response to the OSM database.
Use CoMaps. It's a privacy-first app that pulls their map data from OpenStreetMaps. If something is inaccurate on the map, you can edit it on OSM and it'll populate to most map services. I've made changes and seen it pop up on Google Maps too.
I downloaded CoMaps from F-Droid (https://f-droid.org/), just to avoid the Google Play Store. Slowly de-Googling my life...
I don't know if there is an iOS version. Apple is the OG evil company, long before Google got rid of their "Don't Be Evil" motto, so I avoid their products. Now I'm trying to get off Android stuff too, but there aren't many alternatives right now.
EDIT: Someone else linked a website for CoMaps and it does have an iOS app. Also an Apple and Linux desktop program. No Windows though.
Mapquest lets you have a Rainbow Unicorn icon. Sorry OSM, MapQuest wins.
So while the popular media is distracted by this, what is the Trump admin doing that I should actually care about?
Joke's on them, my savings was wiped out years ago.
For that final one, there was a post earlier about how Flock lost contracts only for city councils to replace them with a different surveillance provider.
It'd be better to divorce Flock from the real issue: i.e. "Neighborhood surveillance is pushing forward".
We can't let rat-bastards who would sell out their towns and cities pretend the grievance is just against Flock and not against all of the surveillance.
Everything they do is to keep you distracted from those Epstein files.
OpenStreetMap also has it as Lake Ontario:
They also have navigation called OSMAnd.
Here in the You Knighted States of Murica, we ain’t gon use no OSAMA maps app
No that makes sense, I hear many Americans refuse to use GPS, because no one can tell them where to drive, they drive where they want and which way they want. Not according to what some sissy computer tells them.
FREEDOM! 😋
It's actually more interesting than this. Open Street Map has a long history of supporting multiple names for the same place. There seems to have been a bit of an edit war since the executive order was issued, but as of now we have <tag k="name" v="Lake Ontario"/> and <tag k="official_name:en-US" v="Lake America"/>. There are also 36 other name tags, mostly listing the name of the lake in different languages. I initially assumed that all those others were added in the last couple of days as a way to sort of protest by taking the whole thing to an absurd level. But the change log actually shows that 27 of them were already in the tags long before the executive order was issued. And honestly, I like it this way better. Instead of making Trumps announcement big to the point of absurdity, OSM has made it small to the point of inconsequence. Trump said he wanted to change the name of the lake, and OSM said "sure, whatever, your name for it can be number 28 on the list of names that people have for it. And actually, while we're on the topic, it looks like we missed a few. Lets throw on 8 more to make sure everyone is represented."
TIL MapQuest is still around.
Years ago, I had one of those standalone GPS mappers that used it for its database. It always gave you the option to choose between shortest time and shortest distance. Generally, I went with the former, but this one time we were heading home and not in any special hurry, so I said let's try shortest distance just for kicks.
Next thing you know, we're on a hunting trail in the Adirondacks in a Geo Metro that was definitely NOT rated for it and my wife was absolutely freaking out while the kids were getting tossed around in the back. Good times.
Google maps does that as well. I was at Grand Teton and heading to my next camp site. 56 miles, 2.5 hours. That seems a bit low on speed. Checked closer, and yep it wanted me to take my van on a pretty rough logging road. I rerouted through Jackson WY.
Resistance at even the smallest level matters.
Yep, this orange motherfucker shouldn't be able to do anything without going through court to force it to happen, and even then ignore it until someone shows up to MAKE you do it. Use his own bullshit against him.
Canada should rename Lake Superior to Lake Obama, “because Obama is Superior”.
“because Obama is Superior”
I love that idea. This phrase makes it super-easy to remember the name change and what went before.
Mapquest still exists? Encarta it!
I asked Jeeves, and he told me it still exists. To celebrate, I played some Neopets and then logged into a fun MUSH game.
The whole renaming thing is a distraction tactic at best.
I personally am a huge fan of CoMaps. It uses OSM data
I was sadly surprised to find out that Kagi maps follwed Trumps lead on misnaming both the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario.
I'm likely to ditch them over this. It's not just a matter of principal. If I can't trust them to stand up to Trumps temper tantrums on this, how can I trust that any of their other results haven't been tampered with?
Since america now calls it Lake america we can nickname it Lac inférieure.
USA is not a Democracy when one man (President) can decide how something will be named. It seems that President have unlimited power, he can do whatever he want, manipulate markets in a most corruptive way, incarcerate who ever he want, bomb and kill at his will.
Organic maps still has the gulf of Mexico not the gulf of trumps taint.
MapQuest needs to add Android Auto support. Loving the icons, though!
I've been happy with Organic Maps
Apple Maps still shows it as its real name, although they eventually capitulated to the dumb alternate name to the Gulf of Mexico. I doubt it’ll last long.
Once again Going Woke doesn't equal Going Broke
I desperately need to get off Google Maps, especially now that it shows Lake America for me up in Canada.
Unfortunately MapQuest has virtually no support for biking/transit/walking, driving is the only option. It also lacks support for collaborative lists, which my partner and I use extensively. I'm still trying to find a viable alternative, happy to take recommendations if they have these features.
Not a single idea or policy or point of view espoused by MAGA is genuinely popular. It's all bots, bullshit, and voter suppression.
Just checked Waze, and they are still showing Lake Ontario.
Waze? Ew.
You know that's Israeli tech that shares data with Palantir right?
You know it's owned by Google so it's really weird that it's still showing that
Waze is Google. The change is coming.
Going to guess this is Number 1 in the past week, or 24 hours, or Number 1 downloaded recently, or some other limited metric because there is no fucking way the average user cares enough for MapQuest to unseat google or apple maps.
Which hey, that's still great. But considering people don't go to the app store to download Google/apple maps since it typically becomes pre-installed, I can't help but feel this headline is misleading.
An executive order is just that an order towards the employees of his executive. It is neither law nor has it necessarily any relevance for anyone outside of the US administration and it sure as hell has no significance outside of the sovereign borders of the USA.
Which is even more telling that Google is so quickly willing to update their content to match Trump's random whimsy.
I know this is just a diversion from Epstein and the Iran war but I am curious, what is the proper procedure in the US for geophical name changes, I doubt it is executive orders, according to the law those executive orders by themselves don't do anything in this regard, do they?
