What a coincidence that they change the UI for the first time ever in the age of vibecoding.
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Omg they had the audacity to change the UI!
Wow. Tech and a dad joke joke.
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Does anyone actually like websites that mess with scrolling like that?
I don't like it on desktop but goddamn, it sucks even more on mobile. I was swiping to scroll through the stupid horizontal menu and then when I got to the bottom of it, turns out I was scrolling so fast I basically teleported to the bottom of the page.
I automatically assume their 'ui update' is bad based on their website alone.
Marketing consultants and web designers, mostly. It's a cash cow for them. Companies will inexplicably pay large sums of money for a dynamic website with such ass user experience.
It must look really good in board meetings when they run it on commercial-grade hardware to show their bosses, otherwise I can't imagine anyone involved has actually tried using those websites.
CEOs and shareholders seem to like them too for some reason. Maybe it bumps up their company valuation or something? Or gives them a reason to give lucrative contracts to their cousin's brother-in-law's nephew's freelance business?
Didnt audacity shit the bed in some spectacular fashion a while back? I could've sworn there was some reason i moved to tenacity and it wasnt just a foss boner
in april 2021, they were purchased by MuseScore;
a few weeks later, they announced that they would introduce Google Analytics and Yandex-based “telemetry”. After strong criticism by the community, Muse Group backtracked, emphasized their commitment to the GPL license, dropped their plans to include Google/Yandex tracking, and instead opted for a self-hosted solution for bug reports and update checks. Both can be disabled, and some distributions disable them by default.
that one was a nothingburger imo as it was always opt-in, was never merged, and planned to only be in testing builds
in july they proposed and then backtracked on a baffling new privacy policy and said they had really overzealous lawyers that they somehow mistrusted lawyers doing so “out of an abundance of caution”, which resolves the issue in my books—within two weeks, which is why i’m not absolving them, but it's been five years since 2021 and absolutely no nonsense has happened.
in fact, audacity has since gained a ton of productivity improvements, outlined in the video https://youtu.be/QYM3TWf_G38 that does have a conflict of interest
tl;dr: i still support audacity
receipts: https://github.com/audacity/audacity/discussions/889 , https://github.com/audacity/audacity/discussions/1353, and everything these link
HOW DARE THEY HAVE THE AUDACITY TO DO THIS!!!
Is audacity still bad and sending information to Russian servers or something?
This is the way.
Dang, clicked into the ToU changes in this MR:
Merge pull request 'Proposal Assembly 2026: ToU extension to prohibit LLM-extrusions' (#1253) from gedankenstuecke/org:20260629-llm-proposal into main
Like that stance I think
Surprisingly, the Internet seems to look mostly favourably on Audacity these days. I never really kept up with it at the time, but apparently all the allegedly heinous (mis)features were opt-in. (Further verification of this may be required.)
I can't tell if that's the result of a really good scrubbing of bad search results or whether they genuinely cleaned up their act.
Either way, Tenacity, the fork that came about as a result of the controversy, still exists, and apparently has themes to change the look just like Audacity is claiming to have done now, so if you're uncertain, that's always an option.
I got tired of Tenacity staying stagnant for months, and still having documentation link issues. Meanwhile, Audacity was actually making meaningful improvements.
After diving deeper in the nontroversy, and seeing their in-depth video explaining their design decisions, I concluded that they genuinely want to improve the software and aren't trying to fuck over the OSS community. So, I switched back when I dumped Windows and switched to Linux.
There's an extreme black and white view of these kinds of issues that crop up in the community that just pisses me off, and shoddy tech reporting doesn't help matters. This wasn't a "Oracle buys MySQL" situation, and the response didn't deserve a fork. But, hey, it's free software, and people can fork whatever they want.
It wasn't about "shoddy tech reporting". Why would a FOSS audio editing app need to know your country, any personal "Data necessary for law enforcement, litigation and authorities’ requests (if any)", share it with a wide network of people and potential buyers, as well as their "main office in Russia"? There should be no telemetry of any sort. Any logs kept should be strictly local, which would allow users to send them to the support team voluntarily.
When you start the app for the first time it asks if you want to enable anonymous telemetry, but otherwise I don't think it sends anything.
As one of the most iconic consumer software FOSS projects this is enormous. Huge congrats to the team who picked this up in the last couple of years.
tenacity ftw
Why?
An Audacity fork without telemetry
Also -->
"For discussions regarding all things Tenacity, you can head on over to our Lemmy community."
https://programming.dev/c/tenacity
PS. Glad to find this post, my first time hearing about tenacity fork!
Any chance for an official flatpak? The current one on Flathub is outdated and requires lots of permissions because they couldn't figure out xdg portals.
Any chance for this new version to hit Fedora's repos?
I'll stick with 3.x, since they started using AI in 4.0 - or use Tenacity, of course.
What AI? Did they do some sort of LLM integration or use LLM-spewed code?
I kinda don't like that logo
I mostly just think they should've kept the color scheme from the original.
Looks incredible!
GIMP already had a significant update not too long ago. There were UI improvements and things like effects for layers.
There were UI improvements
Barely. It's the same old terrible UI and needs a complete overhaul.
lol they've had the same basic interface since I was in high school 20 years ago. This is outstanding. Good for them. I almost never use Audacity anymore but I absolutely would use this if I had a reason to.