That removed just walkin' in the bike lane.
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2025
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Bet there's some kind of psychological trick you can play on cyclists, distracting them with pictures of people walking in bicycle paths.
Everyone else in that scene could be raw-fucking mid-sized Gumby sex dolls and I'd still be like "Get out the damn bike lane!"
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I can understand.
We have some new dedicated cycle lanes in our city (I mean, they are a few years old now. But fairly unique in our country).
I feel bad for the cyclists. They have a dedicated path, which pedestrians are super ignorant of (they are better marked than this picture).
My parents think they are a menace when they visit, because they are unaware of them and get menaced by cyclists.
Except, that's literally what roads are. They just grew up with roads and (even faster) cars.
So, I am understanding of the transition.
And everyone needs to call everyone out over it. It will make everyone safer
I got pretty heated after an event bicycling home. Pedestrians all ignorant walking on the bike lane. That was fine so long as they moved but someone yelled at me and I very angrily yelled back.
People criticize cyclists in the road, they'd criticize you riding on the sidewalk (rightly so), but when we have a dedicated bike lane they walk all over it and act like you're the asshole.
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My hard line opinion is that roads are dead spaces. There is no opportunity for anything to grow or flourish; this includes things like community. More roads = more dead space.
If you want to activate a space, i.e. bring community back, reduce road space. And, of course, with reduced road space you need to counter balance with better infrastructure for other modes of transport to get people moving to and from.
Basic town planning! Looking at you... Local council...
Don't look up parking lot rules in america, dead space like it's going out of style just so crowds can shop on black Friday and Christmas.
Ohoho... I have seen those rules and having visited both California and Texas last year, I can safely say that I don't want any of that where I live. California was marginally better than Texas though but not by much.
It was insane to me that it was a 3hr public bus ride to NASA, and that included a 20 minute walk from where the bus drops you off.
...And those Stepford Wives-like suburban hellscapes with nothing but roads and freeways for miles.
Madness.
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The after picture looks so much more welcoming, clean, and active. Like the place is suddenly more alive.
Leave it like this (well replace the asphalt for nice tiles) and you'll actually get more people to come by and stay for a coffee, use the stores, etc..
They probably still need a serviceable road for deliveries. Probably no alley. Trucks can be heavy as for efficiency they load them up. Can’t use tile roads, they don’t hold up over time.
Okay, a few things to unpack here.
Yeah, you need service roads. In the Netherlands they have the city center streets completely blocked off from traffic, only bicycles and pedestrians are allowed.
Once a day, usually 7-9 am, a hydrolic pole will lower at the entrances, allowing small supply trucks in to supply the stores. These trucks will have two hours to get their business done and leave. If the poles go up before they're out, no worries, they can be lowered on demand for special circumstances or will just auto lower from the inside, not the outside.
Also only small delivery trucks are allowed. I'm in Vancouver and I'm amazed how they sometimes use trailer trucks in the fucking city center. What is wrong with you? You don't need enormous trucks, literally.
In the Netherlands, all centers gave tile roads and it isn't a problem because we use smaller trucks there.
The result is predictable. The city centers are amazing, everyone loves them, and ita always crowded like hell because these are human spaces, not car spaces
Car spaces are awful, dangerous and nobody wants to be there. Make human spaces!
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Get off the bike path grandma
In my experience cycling in London, it wouldn't be a bike lane without some doofus walking on it 😅
Oakland, California is redoing all the downtown roads. Going from four lanes to two lanes with physically separated bike lanes and tiny gardens. I welcome it.
All is bit of a stretch. Oakland’s budget is in rough shape right now. They’re doing a few roads here and there, and they usually start with some low cost experimentation in areas with plastic cones and paint to test first.
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I can't honestly believe that some people would rather have the hellscape in the top photo, rather than the paradise in the lower one.
Communities, and society as a whole, need more of the "after", please!
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Look at all the foot traffic for the shops. I have no idea why shops complain about this.
A study in my hometown found that shopkeepers are mostly concerned about their own commute, not decrease of patrons.
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