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[–] Nima@leminal.space 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

signal requires a phone number and won't even allow you to send sms to those that aren't on signal.

its better, but still not great.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (11 children)

If you need to send sms to someone not on signal, why not just send them an sms

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A truly ethical replacement would not need a phone number

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 2 days ago

And it would have as much spam as email.

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[–] eodur@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How about Delta Chat? At least as secure as Signal, open source, and decentralized.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Not saying that it's necessarily a bad option, but my biggest issue with delta chat is that it does not offer forward secrecy (if a user's private key is compromised, past messages can be revealed); Signal does. Delta no question beats signal in decentralization, though email is less decentralized than it seems--how many people do you know who still use gmail? Delta also inherently leaks metadata on whom you're communicating with to the email host (that's just imap/smtp). Signal can mitigate this somewhat with Sealed Sender (which gives one-way anonymity), though it can be broken with statistical analysis, and signal metadata is more identifying due to requiring a phone number.

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