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[–] morph3ous@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago

This is just gross. Just another privacy invasion from the company that decided to track and de-anonymize people around the internet even while those people were doing all the right things to prevent it.

https://lifehacker.com/tech/meta-apps-have-been-covertly-tracking-android-users-web-activity-for-months

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

don't have Facebook on your phone?

better yet, don't have Facebook?

zero sympathy for anyone caught in this, you've all been warned for at least a decade on what supporting Facebook means, why get upset about this now?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

My mom has facebook and also has my photos.

Unless we can get EVERYONE to respect each others' privacy, arsoning meta ceo until next one gets scared is the only option.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The LAST thing I'd do with my mobile phone is install Facebook or Instagram. What a nightmare.

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 10 points 13 hours ago

Unless you run a custom ROM, like LineageOS or GrapheneOS, you most probably have some Meta apps installed at system level.

This is Meta Services, as a system app which can only be disabled, on my work Samsung.

[–] 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com 10 points 13 hours ago

Because plenty of people care very little about data or security but see all those people on there... so explaining how it is bad matters little as they've used facebook for over a decade

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 40 points 17 hours ago
[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 55 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

"Nice dick bro, ever wondered how it would look in a Studio Ghibli movie?"

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That brings up a good point though. Based on just the screenshot here, it seems like the user wont have a choice of what gets uploaded. People keep some pretty raunchy photos on their phone sometimes. Even kids might have some questionable photos. This is just asking for trouble.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

How long will it take for a sfw kid picture with pink cloths or a splash of red to be misinterpreted, generated and tied to that user? There was already a time on youtube when blood red cloths were getting people demonetized for gore.

[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 47 points 19 hours ago

If you’re still on Facebook, you’re probably not aware of what this means or why it’s a bad thing.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 8 points 14 hours ago

Facebook is just socially accepted malware.

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 93 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

People still use the Facebook spyware app on their phone?

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 60 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Young people have Instagram spyware on their phones and old people have Facebook spyware.

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 41 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Forgot WhatsApp there, de facto messaging app in my part of globe, be it young or old…

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same here. I wanted to include it too but it is not as quite bad as the other two(at least I hope so because I can't avoid it). But yeah you never know with these Meta apps.

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh it’s just as bad, believe me. Have restricted its access to only pre-selected photos, disabled running in background but that’s about all I can do. It has to have access to my contacts to be usable, and who knows what they do with that data.

[–] altius@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, contacts access isn't strictly necessary! I run it with the permission disabled, and although it complains regularly, it still works. I don't have any issues with having to remember people's numbers either since they're recognisable from the profile pictures and because I talk to the same few people usually

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t have that kind of memory unfortunately. It seems there is similar limitation mechanism to contacts as there is for pictures on iOS, but picking each individual person I like WA to know from a list of a few hundred people is quite painful.

[–] altius@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Ahh that makes sense, with more people involved it's harder to go by. I use Fossify Contacts, and it has an option to save contacts but to make them invisible to other apps. Perhaps that might help you somehow, I'm not sure

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

More people use Facebook today than in 2015 when you were using it.

About 2x more people.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Is that mainly in India and Southeast Asia? For some people there Facebook is “the internet”, almost like a modern day AOL. Zuck would jizz himself if he could send you free trial CDs twice a week packed with his spyware.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This page has all the information you might need on the topic. India is on top, but the US is a solid second place.

https://www.demandsage.com/facebook-statistics/

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

194 million US users? That’s got to be bullshit. That’s almost two thirds of the population. Even if they claimed half of the population, I would still call bullshit.

Maybe I would believe 1/2 of people over 60. And that goes down as we lower the age. If we’re talking under 30 years old, I might believe 1/5, maybe.

These fake numbers are how they defraud advertisers and data broker scammers.

[–] Almonds@mander.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Facebook is damn near a necessity in the area I live because no one wants to host their own websites. I've still not given in to making an account, but I'm starting to feel the struggle of not being able to contact small businesses.

So, I can imagine some of those users are multiples of the same person if they also have an account for their business

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

some additional relevant statistics

united states barely saw 1% growth year over year and are projecting that growth to continue to slow.

India has nearly 3x the users of the United States. the u.s. is still second because it's the country it started in, but it's not far ahead of the 3rd and 4th place countries. India is an extreme outlier.

unfortunately they don't break down the age demographic by region, but I'd bet that if we specifically look at daily active users in the United States the age demo would skew much older.

so, it seems like it's similar to what many fast food restaurants have been experiencing lately. the growth opportunities in the United States dried up so the decided to push like hell everywhere else. i bet the growth they saw in India over the last decade was explosive. probably bigger than anything they had ever seen before. bigger than when it was still growing in the u.s.. meanwhile they project that over the next decade in the u.s. they'll see maybe 8% user growth and that's pretty optimistic.

so we probably won't actually see much Facebook marketing in the u.s.. the only way they can capture more u.s users is by buying more apps, like when they bought Instagram.

this does seem to imply that the part of the world where Facebook has become a fact of life is very specifically India. I'm sorry to hear that for them.

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

I mean I still use it sometimes, I just don't use that app. It used to be one of my heaviest battery drains even though I didn't even use it more than a few times a week.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Oh so many.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 21 hours ago

My parents still do

[–] viking@infosec.pub 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Facebook works perfectly fine in browser, there's literally no need for that shit app.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

It actually doesn't, they lock you out of messenger unless you're using the app

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 7 points 15 hours ago

Get thee to messenger.com then. Save it as a PWA and its like having the app but you give Meta as little as possible.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 5 points 14 hours ago

Works just fine if you put your phone in desktop mode.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I use messenger on Facebook web through. I do have the app as well, but the web works.

[–] ThePiedPooper@discuss.online 45 points 20 hours ago

Fuck Facebook. Fuck Meta. Fuck Zuckerberg. Fuck the oligarchs. Fuck LLMs/AI. Eat the Rich.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 56 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

No telling what else they do with your pictures once they're on Meta's servers. Literal spyware (as if it hasn't already been for a long time).

Imagine having your nudes accidentally ghiblified, with the originals stored indefinitely on Meta's servers.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 20 hours ago

Imagine Palantir connecting to it and when you apply for a job denying you that due to that specific photo.

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

Nb4 a "bug" causes that setting to be true for all users just like with the cambridge analitica scandal

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

They are probably gonna use it to train AI so no thanks(even tho i have not used Facebook in a while).

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I'm asking meta to lick my ... Meh never mind.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -3 points 17 hours ago

Yes. Just because the feature isn't useful to you doesn't mean it won't be useful to others.