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Depending on your perspective, either the Americans half-assed their camps, or the Germans overbuilt theirs.
The Germans built death camps.
Trump is building cruelty centres. You don't need much to starve and degrade people. Just cages, bright lights turned on 24/7, and a lack of food and fresh water.
I'm sure these will be upgraded to death camps, but for now they just want to see brown people suffer. Once they get tired of that, they'll start the killing.
In 1933 the first concentration camps also had massive improvised parts. It took about a year for them to be run fully professional. Conditions also became worse over time, with the start of WW2 being a huge step. That was also the start of the extermination camps, which were meant for genocide. Concentration camps were "just" really horrible prisons, which also had criminal and political prisoners, which were actually partly released.
This is just early concentration camp. Good chance it gets worse.
Something I've noticed is that the Trump regime is doing fascism with absolutely no style. The Nazis were awful, but they looked good being awful, literally, as in they had Hugo Boss doing their fashion and Volkswagens to drive around in. Trump just has the cheapest stuff that still works, tents for the camps and generic military gear for the secret police. I think it says a lot about the nature of the Trump regime.
Apparently even things that start out shitty are susceptible to enshittification
The only competent people they have are the ones they want in the camps.
We couldn't find any builders for the concentration camps as the builders are in concentration camps.
Speaking as an American, America half-asses everything.
No, we don
Everything is a grift with them, even genocide. They are probably embezzling most of the funds.
Yea probably this. Nazi Germany was in a sick way proud of their very efficient and stylish dictatorship. Trump's just here for the show, he wants minimal costs and maximum profit for the billionaires. There isn't even any nationalism here it's just a facade, this is about billionaires tramping (or trumping) over the rest to see how far they can push their oligarchy.
what's annoying is reading on bsky or mastodon or other places with Americans going "it's happening" or "soon this will be normal" etc it's like no bro, it isn't happening and it isn't soon, it's now. It's already happened. you're living in it. you're a nazi nation. you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.
you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them. your government is taking away birthright citizenship and very soon they'll go after naturalized citizens and then just straight up regular citizens.
if you're not a white, "straight", christian, male earning over $500mil a year you're fucked. they WILL come for you. They've already laid out the protections for the group previously mentioned. You've lost your country and no amount of peaceful protesting is going to return it to you. There's literally one course of action left but I believe the average American is either too afraid or unwilling to commit to it.
Ooh, but calling for violence is naughty and will get you banned blah blah blah.
Get your shit together, America.
They took a "Death by a thousand cuts" approach to fascism, and we're about 1200 cuts in.
At this point the left needs to take back the power of violence
154 million people voted in 2024. That's a hair over 65% of the voting agreed population. Over half of those people supported this shit stain, and even if they disagree with him on some things now, most will still support and defend him.
My personal objections to participating in a armed resistance aside. No one is looking to organize an armed resistance as far as I'm aware and the concept of organizing such a resistance seems nearly impossible for many reasons.
I've seen a few reports of protesters making things more difficult for ICE, but that's about the most resistance I've seen. I'm starting to see why reasonable Germans didn't rise up, it's not that they agreed or didn't want to, it's difficult to organize a resistance. There needs to be a clear leader, good communication channels, a way to vet those who join, and anything else a military operation needs. And even then, you'd be going up against over half the population and the armed forces. And it would be giving a reason for them to use full military force against the citizens.
There is no good end to this, there is no way to stop this from continuing. I think a lot of people are counting on midterms to bring a peaceful end to this nightmare, I doubt we will have that chance and even if we do, the outcome will not be enough to swing the power.
We're fucked.
Less than half of voters voted for this admin. He only won a plurality.
Oh you see now how impossible it really is to fight back once it's in swing? You either need outside assistance from a hostile country, or you will be dying basically out of spite, accomplishing nearly nothing.
You need something more, something smarter.
you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.
I can only hope that the body count isn’t as similar as the rest of their playbook.
It is terrifying to consider the very real possibility that the US may have already “deported” thousands of people to a mass grave somewhere. I’m not aware of any evidence of that, but while it would still shock me it would not surprise me.
What exactly do you think CECOT is? Those people aren't awaiting trial.
CECOT
Coordinates 13°32′1″N 88°48′18″W
Are so many 8s a coincidence?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Confinement_Center
watching this happening in real time makes me wonder if the only reson germany lost was bc they started a war. bc rn it seems like we r doing what germany did but havent started a world war yet which will be interesting bc wed prob end up like russia, china, and NK etc. everyone know there are concentratiosn camps and human right violations but nobody would do anything bc there isnt a valid reason too yet bc if anyobe does anything, itll be taken as a sign of aggression and possibly war
Nazi Germany kinda had to start wars because their spending wasn't sustainable: they had significant yearly deficits and they were always looking for ways to push forward the day that Germany would become insolvent. They stole the assets of outgroups like the Jewish minority, financially raided the banks, had the treasury print money to pay of debts, implemented price and wage controls to stave off inflation because of printing too much money, ... None of it was sustainable in the long term. The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.
And very unfortunate for the world today: the spending by usa republicans isn't sustainable either + the usa has a very big army. Some people would say that the usa republicans couldn't possibly be that stupid to rob or invade their peaceful trade partners, but ... a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.
a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.
They aren't just stupid, many on the right are religiously dedicated to the idea of a judgement day and devastating war between 'good and evil'. They are convinced 'God is on their side'. Evangelical Christian fascists have been pushing this for years, it was almost guaranteed to come to direct conflict from the course the US has been on unless there was some kind of intervention long ago.
A good book that documents this is The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer.
An arduous read, but vital for thinking minds nonetheless.
💯%. the US was heavily isolationist at the start of WWII, and pretty anti-Semitic. for example, the St. Louis, a boat full of Jewish refugees, was turned away from the US and Canada in 1939 - and turned back to Europe, with many Jews eventually imprisoned and murdered by the Nazis. there were also the blackshirts in the UK, who were pro-Nazi, and PM Chamberlain had a peace treaty drawn up with Hitler. and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with the Soviets, of course.
so if the Nazis had been content to murder only German, Austrian and Czech Jews, they would have gotten away with it.
on the other hand, Nazi ideology (e.g. "lebensraum" and their belief in the destiny of the Aryan race to conquer the "inferior" races) drove them to war, to invade Poland and to break their pact with the Soviets. and they also spent tons of resources on the Holocaust, at the expense of their military.
so basically yeah, isolationist Nazis would have totally survived, but otoh Nazis aren't isolationists.
so basically yeah, isolationist Nazis would have totally survived,
Everything you said was on point but this part I feel is incorrect. Nazi Germany was on the brink of bankruptcy by 1939 because of government overspending, mainly due to rearmament. Hitler felt he had to absolutely invade other countries to pillage the resources and maintain the German economy. People tend to give too much credit to the Nazis but the regime would have totally collapsed on its own if it weren't for the war delaying the inevitable.
Hitler and the Nazis aren't different to any other dictatorships in post-war third world countries. They are bunch of fantasist buffoons. The Nazis only got lucky they went so far because they inherited strong institutions to leech off of, particularly the legacy of the Prussian military-- the army with a state.
Trump keeps talking about annexing Canada though. Hitler didn’t need to invade Poland or any of the other nations he Blitzkrieged, but there it is.
He has fallen quiet about that though. I wonder if someone with an ounce of historical knowledge told him that if you’re going to fascist, don’t start wars at the same time.
denial is a powerful weapon. along with propaganda, gaslighting, state controlled media, money-- all things deployed to make the average, normally decent human being witness the atrocities going on around them and say "i mean, this is america. we wouldn't allow masked men to kidnap people for no reason" as they watch their literal american citizen neighbor getting kidnapped, imprisoned, deported. murdered. for no reason
Anyone who believes this can be stopped through any means other than revolt is either a fool or a liar. Take up arms, organize with your community, and fight back.
Until there is legitimate, sustained, and effective opposition to this Alligator Auschwitz, the rest of the world sees it as American as apple pie and school shootings.
It’s speed running to the wrong side of history.
America started down this path all the way back in 9/12/2001. We didn't hold Bush accountable, Obama, Trump, or Biden. Now the lunatic is using the tools provided to him.