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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The IA needs to relocate out of the US, now. The EU and Canada should be convinced to fund them.

I've donated to them and am willing to do so again, but I'd like it to be after they show they have a concrete exit plan.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

They need to federate and decentralize with some sort of p2p protocol, so anyone can donate their spare hard drives for additional redundancy. Seeing up shop in any jurisdiction is a single point of failure.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The IA is already marked for death and has been ever since they doubled down after blatantly infringing copyright with scanned books during the pandemic. IRC the full penalties of that haven't been felt yet, and I think they are likely to bankrupt the ogranisation.

What IA needs to do is spin off the actual Internet Archive element to another organisation, outside of the US like you say, such that an essential part of the internet isn't taken down with the organisation.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not sure why you’re being downvoted. The Internet Archive is a fantastic resource, but to say they take a lackadaisical approach to copyright/IP law is putting it lightly. There is SO much pirated content on there that it’s a wonder they’ve managed to last as long as they have, being US-based.

Whether you agree with the spirit of the laws or not, there’s no arguing that they’ve long been on a collision course with major US copyright holders and I doubt they can survive without a massive effort to relocate somewhere out of reach.

[–] blank_the_blank@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Eventually having any money in your wallet at all will be at a collision course with US copyright holders, almost as if copyright is an unsustainable tool of neocolonialism that has no place in a post scarcity world.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean it was a precarious case that was on the verge of being acceptable to most people, but legally was clearly not. Scanning books and providing a single digital copy was legally grey, but everyone looked the other way. Providing extra copies during a pandemic was kind, but allowing it to go to court and not settling (and then doubling down with appeals, all of which has to be funded by donations that could have been spent elsewhere) ended up with a judge ruling that no one can scan books and publish a single copy without an explicit license from the publisher. So that grey area is now black and white.

I can't help but resent them for this, given that the main part of the organisation - the actual Internet Archive - is so important and they've put its survial at risk with their side hussle. Some of the blame (perhaps even a majority?) should also go to the lawyers that represented IA.

[–] AntaresFederation@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Why is it that when every good resource that pops up, it has to be in the US, where it gets shut down anyway, due to such strict censorship laws. Just move to Sweden or Norway or something.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] AntaresFederation@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Internet Archive is an amazing resource that I'm grateful for. Seeing this confirms my bias of Elon Musk, that he's a fake and doesn't actually care about humanitarian goals, or initiatives to help people. He's in it for himself, and he is not an actual altruist. He makes it about his money, and his power, not genuinely trying to support resources that may help people.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why is your user marked as bot, and why do you bold your whole comment?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of sounds like a bot. Thing is, I agree with it so I'm torn.

[–] AntaresFederation@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I can assure you I'm not a bot, just someone who is fed up with people who mask their "altruism" to later unveil their profiteering habits, basically steering away from everything they once stood for, only to become the very thing they hate and preach against.

[–] AntaresFederation@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Set my account as a non-bot account and unboldended the text just for you.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hm. You didn't have to do that, but thanks I guess? The bot thing would be detrimental to you since it is used by some people to filter out posts/comments made by bots

[–] AntaresFederation@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm new to Lemmy, I'm literally trying to set my account up, and understand this and the Fediverse. I used to be on Reddit, but had some severe negative experiences there. Lemmy and the Fediverse seems much more polished, and more interactive as a community.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

It is, indeed! Good job for making the jump to here. Good luck with discovering things. I think I still see your account marked a bot, don't know if it's some cache thing or what

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Elon Musk is a fake!

This is something that should be preached everywhere.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Do monthly reoccurring donations for them!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I'm amazed he didn't shut it down