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"Wow! Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make it very hard for us to make a Trade Deal with them," Trump said on Truth Social.
It has become obvious that Carney doesn't put much value in a "deal" with Trump's US anymore.
canada actively aids the genocide in the same way that the united states and the united kingdom do; this is little more than political copycat of the french and british gov'ts so that the canadian gov't can also insist that they were always on the right side of history when the next few generations read their history books in school.
One can praise a step in the right direction while acknowledging there are many steps to go.
It took an ongoing genocide for a conditional state recognition. So they will probly do the next step when there is no longer any palestinian in palestine
They'll pivot to "It's too late now", which is always how political delaying tactics like this one work.
Carney learned his politics working for the Tories (who are basically posh Fascists) in Britain as head of the Bank Of England and this tactic of promising something near meaningless in the future to avoid doing now the actual things required to address the problem that the public opinion demands (such as sanctions on Israel) is very common over there.
This shit is pure hypocrisy, which is why the British Government (who, right now, are arresting people for merelly planning to demonstrate against the Genocide) came up with the idea.
Hundreds of thousands of dead children and counting in exchange for recognizing statehood, maybe, in a month's time and only if Hamas surrenders.
That's not the moral highground you seem to think it is.
So you’d prefer nothing at all happening? Cuz that’s what that this “all or nothing” mentality accomplishes
That's a perfect example of a False Dichotomy - there are literally thousands of options other that merely "nothing" and "non-binding promise full of caveats of no-impact future action".
Quite a lot of those thousands of options actually impact Israel NOW.
Chosing to avoid any of those impactful action options and pushing instead for a "promise of future no impact action, if certain vague conditions are met" is exactly how politicians avoid being accused of "doing nothing" whilst de facto doing nothing: this a very common political strategy to avoid action until it's too late when under pressure from public opinion to act now, so it's actually worse than doing nothing at all (because it has the same practical results as doing nothing at all, whilst reducing pressure to act hence making it less likely that effective actions will ever be taken).
You seem to have fallen for this common political scam hook, line and sinker.
At what point has anyone said “oh yep that’s all I need from you Canada that’s good enough”
nobody is claiming this is a good stopping point. Nobody is using this to halt their push for more. They’re just saying that it’s a good thing to have happened.
Had this been done when there was no Holocaust by Starvation in Gaza and those politicians were not under public pressure to do something about it, then yeah, it would have been a positive action for Palestine as whole since it would open the door for eventual improvements there, but right now, by delaying effective action as wished by the public, that tiny positive potential impact in the future is more than offset by the continued deaths that mean there will be no such Future for tens of thousands or even millions in Gaza, and this "action" does nothing to address that.
The greatest impact this has is to reduce pressure on those politicians to address the problem, so de facto this is a step backwards compared to "doing nothing" as it wields the same result to Gazans whilst by reducing the pressure on politicians makes it less likely that they're forces to take an effective action.
The only way to confuse this with a step forward if you completelly ignore the broader context of how most of the people who might derive a tiny benefit from this will be dead or have lost far more than they will gain from said tiny benefit when that benefit delivers anything, and the political managing of public opinion component of this.
Okay bud, enjoy the grandstanding all you want. 👍
You're the one dying on the hill of defending that grand proclamations of how they're going to help Palestine from the very politicians currently shipping weapons to Israel should be taken unquestionably at face value, and hence that they're really taking a step forward.
👍
where is the step in the right direction?
Imagine you are dying of thirst so I show up, hold a glass of cold water and yell at the world "I will give this water to @Shiggles" and then whisper to you "if you pay me a million dollars, agree to be my slave for life, let me dunk my dick in the water first and finally let me have my way with your partner"
Would you still say I took a step in the right direction?
Exactly. Demanding that Palestine give up its arms in the face of a massive nuclear power that has already turned Gaza to rubble. Is an absurd demand.
This is just a stupid headline. I mean, not that Reuters is wrong, just that the world is stupid right now.
"Canada condemns the fact that the Israeli government has allowed a catastrophe to unfold in Gaza"
Right, like Canada condemns the fact that the German government has allowed a catastrophe to unfold in concentration camps.
Okay.
And then they sent troops to help liberate Europe from the nazis.
I'd say they have a pretty good track record.
The point of this talkie talkie from the Canadian PM now is exactly to delay effective actions like that until it's too late, by which point he'll pivot to "it's too late to do anything now".
One thing is the Canadian people, a totally different thing are Canadian politicians in this era: this kind of talkie-talkie delaying technique is exactly because the government doesn't want to do what the people want, so they do "promises of near meaningless action in the future" instead to look like they're "doing something" whilst avoiding like the Plague actual effective action (which in this case means immediate Sanctions on Israel).
I'm intimatelly familiar with this kind of shit because I lived in Britain and this delaying technique was frequently used there (though doing it to allow a nation to keep on mass starving children to death is a new low, even for British politicians).
(Unsurprisingly, if you read the articles about it, you'll see that this latest political move was started by the British PM).
What will we say about what happens in American concentration camps?
Fuck these Nazis
Get fucked Donnie, sincerely all of rational Canada.
Heyyy relax guy!
I DEMAND Trump be removed from office and imprisoned. Who do I call to report the rapist insurectionist who has infiltrated the Whitehouse?
Cancel all Microsoft Office contracts. Cancel all Microsoft Windows contracts. Switch all government departments and Crown corporations to Linux.
Yeah, this is the national government that can't even hire someone else to make an app effectively. Decades of cutting "wasteful bureaucracy" in the IT field has left them a sitting duck. They need to build that back, and then maybe we can discuss it in 10 years.
Announce $100 million fund to support Open Source software such as Krita, Gimp, Inkscape. Time to assassinate Adobe.
Bruh, we don't even know how we're going to pay for the things we already have as the US implodes our economy. And we have a housing crisis.
Ban all government departments from using foreign consulting firms. No more McKinsey or Bain.
More doable, although I'd go for more avoid than totally ban. Absolutes like that tend to run up against the nuance of whatever small procurement.
Cancel all F-35 jet orders. It’s better to have 5 F-16 than 1 plane that can’t fly.
We already paid.
Put all the top 50 executives from Fox News on a no-travel list. Put their spouses on the list.
A bit arbitrary (why not the Trumps themselves?) but sure.
Do they even have 50 top-level executives, though?
Where did you read all of that? Its not in the article?
C'mon you Canadian IT guys. Put a package together with solid plan to switch over. That's the hardest part. Once done, selling it will be easy, based on the license fee money saved. Don't forget to make some profit, but don't get greedy like the big boys. Let's go!
Trump, supporters and the US can gargle my balls.