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Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

At least in the U.S. and Canada, that is.

This was brought to my attention thanks to a Reddit post where a user (presumably a resident of Canada), had posted how Lenovo was shipping laptops with Fedora and Ubuntu at a cheaper price compared to their Windows-equipped counterparts.

Others then chimed in, saying that Lenovo has been doing this since at least 2020 and that the big price difference shows how ridiculous Windows' pricing is.

Cutting the Windows Tax

When I dug in further, I found out that the US and Canadian websites for Lenovo offered U.S. $140 and CAD $211 off on the same ThinkPad X1 Carbon model when choosing any one of the Linux-based alternatives.

Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installedLenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

US pricing on left, Canadian pricing on right.

Interestingly, while the difference in pricing is noticeable, your mileage may vary if you are looking for such laptops on the official website. Not all models from their laptop lineup, like ThinkPad, Yoga, Legion, LOQ, etc., feature an option to get Linux pre-installed during the checkout process.

Luckily, there is an easy way to filter through the numerous laptops. Just go to the laptops section (U.S.) on the Lenovo website and turn on the "Operating System" filter under the Filter by specs sidebar menu.

Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

Yes, it's as simple as that. You can do the same for the various official online regional storefronts that Lenovo runs to see whether Linux-based operating systems are being offered on their laptops in your country.

Closing Thoughts

It is good to see that Lenovo is offering Linux in its laptops. In fact, there is another big-name laptop manufacturer, Dell, who also does something similar with its Ubuntu-certified laptops, but both have the same constraint of having limited options for buyers.

Also, as far as I know, Dell doesn't reduce the pricing if you choose Linux instead of Windows. Correct me if I am wrong in the comments.

Nonetheless, I think these manufacturers could do a better job in marketing these Linux-based alternative operating systems to general consumers, showing them how they can save big when opting for these instead of the pricey and bloated Windows.

Otherwise, we might have to start observing Windows Refund Day again.

πŸ’¬ Your take on this? Would mainstream users benefit from having Linux pre-installed on their laptops?


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[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

2025 is the year of the Linux ~~desktop~~ laptop!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

I would really like to see broad support for TPM-backed FDE, which also requires secure boot to work to implement this properly.

For me, this is essential to have for feature parity with Windows on laptop.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 49 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

It kinda blows my mind that "no OS" isn't the cheapest option

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 24 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It's the same reason that you have to pay more to stream videos without ads...

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, smart TVs with no OS are way more expensive than the ones riddled with ads as well.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I changed to the projectivity launcher on my Android TV and it was night and day in terms of performance. No ads. The UI doesn't change every other week to make me look at some new show I don't care about. I can literally just hide everything I don't want to see.

I should probably look into actual entire OS swaps available for my TV but I don't have the time. Changing the launcher and using ADB (over lan) to disable updates and apply some optimizations was worth the day it took me.

Turns out the hardware on the TV is fine. The software was just complete garbage and got worse with every update.

Now if only I could fix the UI in the actual apps like YouTube. But still it's a lot better. I'll probably install the YouTube alternative app one day when I have time.

My wife started using the TV over her tablet after I changed it. She said she hated how slow it was to just turn on and start that she just would go to her tablet instead.

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[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

So.... Windows is an ad delivery system.hmm, it makes sense, because as an operating system that's the only thing it does well is show ads.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Computer companies tried that for a while like 15 years ago, too.

[–] SpaceCheeseWizard@lemm.ee 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The timing here with compatability getting better could be a huge difference maker.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 hours ago

Absolutely. I'm just saying its not a novel idea.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 55 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is awesome and I love it. Maybe they could even take a few more dollars off by not having any OS installed (bypassing the labor costs of imaging an SSD). I’ll be installing my own copy anyway, so I’m fine with a blank SSD.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Those manufacturers where you can select either Linux or no OS don't charge extra for Linux.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 9 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

I mean it’s like maybe a dollar or two for the labor costs, so that’s understandable. I’d still prefer just a blank SSD anyway.

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[–] Gort@lemm.ee 6 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I'm in the UK, and last year got a Lenovo ThinkPad laptop with Linux pre-installed that was cheaper than the Windows equivalent. I had a choice of RAM, SSD, display and OS. Ubuntu was the only choice of Linux, though.

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[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 15 hours ago

Here in Europe it was possible to buy almost all laptops and desktops from Lenovo without OS preinstalled since long time, saved a lot of money that way. It's nice that they officially offer Linux now.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 32 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

I thought OEMs only paid like $10 for Windows?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 32 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

they tend to make money off it due to the bundle deals and commissions and what-not.

a major oem charging $140-200 is all profit.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's usually 10% of the device MSRP for windows pro.

There are some very low cost devices that get it for $10 for windows home..

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Looks like this was Windows home. Windows pro was a $ upgrade.

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[–] Maeve@midwest.social 5 points 13 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 4 points 13 hours ago

Awesome, with Ubuntu too!

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 9 points 15 hours ago

Fantastic development. I got the "last year's" model of a Lenovo Legion gaming laptop for work a few years ago bc it was one of the few affordable models that I could find at the time with a second m.2 slot. Expandable memory was a nice bonus. Love the keyboard, too. Been really happy with it. I run Kinoite on it.

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