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    [–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] zorro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

    LXIX my balls! Haha got'em.

    Believe it or not, this is the second time I got to make that joke within an hour.

    [–] geoff@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

    Emacs

    It's a sound choice. I don't like to use it, personally, because I want to use something that uses same motions and syntax as editors on servers that I don't own (ex. customers). And, I'm not a fan of Lisp. It's a great and (self-)extensible text editor/lisp interpreter, though.

    [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I dislike Evil, and would never recommend it to anyone looking for a modal editing solution for Emacs. I would rather break my pinky with the modifiers than use Evil.

    • Evil is SLOOWWW: its startup time is 10x longer than other modal editing packages.
    • It has high cost of integration with other packages; editing-related packages rarely play well with Evil unless specifically designed for it.
    • We can do better than vi. Nowadays, there are some more modern alternatives to vi, like Kakoune that fix some of the fundamental problems with vi. One such problem is the fact that you cannot know what you are acting on until after the command completes: Kakoune solves this by having a unique noun verb syntax rather than vi's verb noun syntax. This means that you get constant feedback about what you’re acting on before you act on it, since objects are always highlighted.

    Instead, for anyone looking for a serious and actually good modal editing, I would suggest them to try out meow. It fixes all of the problems I mentioned above, and makes more improvements to the vi experience that I didn't mention.

    [–] BlackXanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    The comments on this post went exactly like they have over the past 20 years, with one exception.

    Emacs is all but forgoten.

    Vim wins.

    Recently, I recommended to a friend that basic vim/vi is worth learning because it's a baseline that you can always trust will be there across different Linux systems.

    They asked me what I used most on my home system, and the answer was emacs, but I was very clear that I was not recommending it. It's a particular kind of person who finds themselves at home in emacs, and for everyone besides those people, selling them on emacs would feel like persuading them to do hard drugs.

    [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago
    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Sorry maybe I'm dumb. But does this mean VIM and Obsidian are Vi?

    [–] sunshine@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    I usually refer to im as "vi" just to ~~make people think I'm old school and cool~~ save time typing that last character.

    But Obsidian??

    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Oh yes. My "excell isn't a database" program. Obsidian.

    [–] sunshine@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

    I want to understand this comment!