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I don’t really get this.
Whether I like the UK’s act, they are free to set the laws of their land. So if foreign websites don’t want to comply, the UK is also free to order its ISPs to block the site.
Which kids will then circumvent with VPN.
And so on …
Whether I like the UK’s act, they are free to set the laws of their land. So if foreign websites don’t want to comply, the UK is also free to order its ISPs to block the site.
Yes, and 4chan is an asshole, if you want to do business in a country you need to respect the country's laws even if your company in not in that country.
What 4chan can do (and it is the only thing) is to block people from UK. Or find a way to convince a UK court that the law is unconstitutional (or the UK equivalent) but I would not bet on this.
Fuck the censorship but a non-US government should not be tried in a US court.
By that logic "non-US laws shouldn't affect US establishments". Have you even thought that through before typing it?
Yes, you probably haven't. If an entity or person does not have a presence in a country it should not be subject to those laws. Their home country should reject enforcing any penalties or extraditing their citizen. Of course the US is the most notorious and more successful in getting people that never had any meaningful relation to the US extradited.
I also don't think the UK or an EU nation's court should be able to try a case against a US government agency, say the FDA because they do not follow the same standards. Or even against ICE agents because they abduct people.
Democratic countries should be able to have their own laws even if larger countries disagree with them.
Do you seriously think 4chan is in danger of having the fines collected? They are just right wingers trying to spur the US government into blackmailing the UK into changing their laws to align with US sensibilities and 'values'. Fuck that.
Literally the worst possible champions of this cause.
They come for the things nobody would be caught dead defending (often even people who privately engage in it) first. Look at how during the thing with payment processors and porn games, some people were saying they didn't mind if it were just the rape games being banned. Those are used as justification for speech restrictions to the public.
(I don't even think KiwiFarms should be legal personally, Chris Chan's story should be considered evidence enough that they're a harassment forum)
I'm just saying like I oppose the death penalty, but there are certain cases where I'm not going to die on that particular hill. I don't believe they should be killed, but the context of the moment is going to alienate more people than it convinces.
Same thing here. I oppose identification laws but making that argument in defense of those two is going to make folks think it's a fanatical position rather than a reasonable one.
It's far better to argue from a reasonable position and then extend that to other cases than just argue these places should be allowed to continue to weaponize anonymity.
One I heard recently is a murder case. I'd say it sounds like murder but fuck it he deserved to die
Who cares? Nobody else is fighting this crap.
Now 4chan becomes the face of resistance to this shit, and people will think it is only being opposed by a bunch of deplorable incels. It delegitimizes the entire opposition - you can't speak out against it any more without being associated with 4chan and whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
At least that's the risk, and that's why I wish these sites would go die in a hole rather than involve themselves with things I care about.
whatever the fuck kiwi farm is.
Nazis.
Tbh, I don't know why a push by more left leaning sites hasn't happened? This would at the very least show the broader unpopularity of the age verification law among pretty much both sides.
What's a left leaning site that has lots of 'adult' or 'harmful' content?
Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently.
Where's that worst person you know makes a good point headline when you need it
Thanks for pointing this out. Where IS the 'Worst person you know makes a good point'-reference? Well, more like 'The scum of the scum of the scum scum has a good point'...
Is there some way they could both lose?
Uk loses the case, both Kiwi and 4chan go into debt from legal fees? (They're definitely not making bank)
Kiwi farms? You mean the website that harrasses people online, Swats people, and basically does shit that is illegal in the UK anyway?
Next you'll tell me child porn sites are suing the UK. Fuck the Online Safety Act, but yeah, they're not the people who should be suing the UK over this.
they drove emulator developer Near/Byuu to suicide. That's someone who created BSNES / Higan (the first fully-accurate snes emulator), and helped with the fan translations for many games including mother 3.
Hey 4Chan was a big reason behind no one taking Scientology seriously anymore
Oh no, they might dox the PM, call him a lolcow, and SWAT 10 Downing.
nazi porn-enjoyers vs nazi government ultimate showdown
Everyone should sue those fuckers. Taking away the last pieces of our freedom.
So 4chan that said they wouldn't pay the UK fine as the UK doesn't have jurisdiction over companies based in the USA is going to sue UK over stuff that 4chan can't be responsible for?
Wait until they sue Mississippi
