Im shocked its not lower.
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LOL got me
Never listen to a centrist again when they tell you "how things have to be" to win an election.
But but no matter who
Such a tired bit of propaganda. Y'all need to acknowledge that while we wouldn't have had progress under Kamala we also would not have had Alligator Auscwhitz, a near doubling of homeland security's budget, illegal kidnappings/deportations, the US military policing American cities, tariffs, RFK Jr., honestly I could keep going.
She ran a shit campaign, people were dissatisfied with the former administration. She should never have been there, but all those that decided to abstain damned us all.
It's like sitting one a sinking ship, throwing all the life jackets overboard, and complaining "well I didn't sink the ship".
Now millions of people in this country from those in the LGBTQ community to immigrants live in fear. Because some people thought they were so morally superior. Well congrats.
I don't even like the democrats, but I'm at least capable of realizing that sometimes you have to pick what causes the least amount of harm. Sometimes you can't have an ideal outcome. I'd rather run off the road than plow through children crossing the street. Neither are a good option, but only one is morally correct. And no taking your hands off the wheel and complaining isn't a moral option.
Exactly. Now instead of only continuing the genocide that was never going to be stopped regardless of the outcome of the election, we get a second genocide right here at home.
That you take the former as given is the whole reason the Democratic party has like a 20% approval rating. People don't vote for parties that just act like bad things are just immutable facts of life, especially when it's blatantly obvious that the bad thing could be changed if the political will existed.
Very sound logic.
Probably won't comfort trans people when they're shoved into death camps, but for a brief moment you got to feel superior. So that's gotta count for something right?
I voted for Harris and the people you're losing are the ones who don't care about feeling superior, they just don't feel like voting is very important and dumb statements like "regardless of who is elected, this bad thing won't change" reinforce that idea.
Honestly that's a fair point. I feel like this is a major failure of our civics education.
If we did mandatory voting, made election day a federal holiday, and treated it like a much more important civil duty the results would be wildly different.
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Imo it was a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for Democrats; which is exactly what Republicans, Israel, and bad actors crafted the situation to be.
If the public stance was not Democrats being 100% for Israel, then they believed they would have lost the election because of the political PACs and donors flipping to fund the opposition.
Given how much money the lobbies that were pro-Israel were pushing into the campaign trail, any candidate that didn’t take that stance in a close election was for sure at risk of losing their donor vote.
I still think Democrats should have done more, such as saying they would fully step into the situation to prevent the loss of more lives for both Palestinians and Israelis. It also didn’t help that Biden was pro-Israel and expected Kamala to be lock-step with his stances while on the campaign trail.
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You can write as many paragraphs as you need to feel better but a Harris win was never possible. Our political process has been completely captured by a class of billionaires. The working class have no representation. Elections continue only as a means to accelerate partisan culture war distraction to keep the working class divided. The outcome was pre determined. Direct your anger at billionaires not working class people.
I reject the assertion that there is absolutely no chance and our elections are predetermined. They're dug in real deep and have an insanely strong influence but there is a chance as long as elections continue to happen.
Also just because the billionaires are the enemy doesn't mean the common man can't be wrong. When it comes to a class war I'm more than willing to let bygones be bygones. But that doesn't mean we still can't discuss the poor actions of our peers.
Just watched a legal eagle video on helldivers that gives a nice little primer on managed democracy.
Folks here should watch it. Not that it would actually get them to pull their voluntary blinders off to stop spewing bullshit propaganda about how the democrats can and will save us.
Ok then why reject Mamdani in NY and Fateh in MN?
I don't?
I love Mamdani. Personally haven't heard much about Fateh but if their policies are similar sign me up.
I don’t mean you, I mean the DNC.
And how exactly do you suggest Kamala to have become elected, exactly, with her position on the genocide and her "I would do nothing different" approach to politics?
Because you are doing a bait and switch, right now, with what the critique was and how you are interpreting it.
The critique was, that if Kamala didn't change her position on the genocide, she wouldn't be elected. You are interpreting that as if the argument was that she shouldn't be elected.
I want to also point out that this same, disingenuous interpretation was omnipresent in the run up to the election: criticism of Harris or her ability to convince the electorate was interpreted as being "against" Harris. This was met with some of the worst brigading and dog-piling the internet has ever seen. This disingenuous approach almost certainly drove voters away from Harris, because of her supporters vapid intolerance to the critique that the candidate needed to change their policies because they were blowing it.
So the onus is on you. How do you, exactly, propose getting 6 million additional votes for Harris? What functional mechanism? Because it's on your camp at this point, since that camp that ran interference from people trying to move the candidate to a more electable position.
I hold no loyalties to Harris. As stated her campaign was shit and she should never have ran. I'm not part of any "camp".
It's not my job to lead you to something all so obvious. Project 2025 was published. We knew this would happen. You decided that the lives of immigrants and queer people were unimportant to you. You decided it was more important to act superior than to swallow just a little bit of your pride and protect lives. I'm sorry that "dogpile" is too much for you to handle.
I'm sure the corpses this administration is making will really really care about my onus
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0% of Democrats happy with state of the US right now
MAGA: That's how we know we're doing the right thing!
While 76 percent of Republicans say they are satisfied with the direction of the country
What the absolute fuck?? These fucking people would be happy with the direction of north Korea. Decades of relentless propaganda have really done a number on these people and destroyed their critical thinking
65% of Republican voters are ages 50 and over, these people don't really care about anything except their retirement accounts. So long as Republicans can keep the stock market growing they don't give a shit.
When they are unseated in the midterms, we should deport them to pyongyang
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How do those protest votes feel now, assholes?
(to those voters, obvs)
I'm glad I voted for Harris and I'm not complicit in shipping someone's family member to a concentration camp or helping a pedophile get elected.
Some would argue this as a bad move, but considering Gaza will be a parking lot by December anyway, congrats, benchwarmers. You played yourselves.
I'm with you. We can't know if she would have taken a different stance on this, but at least we wouldn't have a mugshot hanging from buildings in the capital where martial law has been instituted.
Currently democrats are having a registration crisis while Republicans are having a boom, so pretty good?
Like you'd think those numbers would be opposite, maybe they are a continued indictment of the DNC democratic party that continues to ignore any candidate who has organic support like Mamdami.
Never underestimate DNC’s ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I dropped Dem for DSA in 2016.
I think voting for a D in the general is generally a good harm reduction strategy. That said, I'm a big fan of the Working Families Party, tho they aren't active where I'm at. They seem to be "more practical" at gaining political power, while still fairly well-aligned with the DSA about how it should be used.
I, too, started looking for something "left" of the DNC in 2016; I was a fan of Bernie [and other progressives].
I was just listening to an explanation of this effectively fake bit of information this morning. Basically, at least in MA and other states like it, both dems and republicans saw a drop in registration because registrations work differently now. Where registrations are automatic, they don't default to a party affiliation and you have to actively select such, which most people aren't going to do. As a result, an absolutely enormous proportion of registrations are now unaffiliated and BOTH parties are more or less taking a hit--however, because Dems get more registrations historically anyway and many of those are now no longer going in to register just party affiliation, they seem disproportionately hit. End of the day, not much is really changing that we can understand from the voting registrations, but we'll see what happens in the midterms.
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Given that democrats are going along with fascism and throwing progressives under the bus after the primary, vindicating.
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you'd have to be braindead to be happy with the state of the US right now.
Unfortunately a lot of Americans are.
Gallup's polling found Republicans were essentially just as dissatisfied with the direction of the country in July last year as Democrats are today. However, the partisan gap at the time was 35 points because only 36 percent of Democrats were satisfied with the country's direction at the time.
ouch
So they are going to change their electoral tactics, right?
Right????
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Yet they keep supporting Republicans at ever corner, at every step. If. A Republican drops something, a Democrat will go "ohh, let me get that for you"
What the fuck has been going on with the US for like the past 6 decades or so?
Good! As a Democratic Strategist I can USE this Information to CONVINCE the DNC to go even FURTHER Right to Court the Republicans who ARE Happy with the US! That's the ONLY way we can WIN again!
i can see why
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