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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago

in what seems to be a very popular theme of "maybe we can just live off defense money" for tech outfits, oura is planning to manufacture in texas for simping to the DoD

I'm struggling to sneer it, it's so fucking absurd

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

More vibe coding wins in the wild. Soon we will be out of a job here.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

Not worthy of a third post imho, but Scott made the trilogy post: https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=9108 where he is subtlety walking back his insane, proudly kid killing claim to the more reasonable, Israel needs to defeat hamas, claim.

For a man angry about his detractors being intellectually dishonest(**), this is very typical:

Incredibly, commenters on Peter Woit’s blog then blamed me for this antisemitic image, mistakenly imagining that I’d created it myself, and then used their false assumption as further proof of my mental illness

For context, it was an AI slop image, and he named it after Woit, and didn't provide any details from the email itself. While the whole affair is quite a good reason to at least put this persons name/email out there imho.

But also:

I’m even grateful, in a way, to SneerClub, and to Woit and his minions. I’m grateful to them for so dramatically confirming that I’m not delusional: some portion of the world really is out to get me. I probably overestimated their power, but not their malevolence. [...]

His ability to lack self-awareness and reading skills remains bad. The power thing was partially in his first blogpost already, where he realized the 'manhaters' were just a small group. And the latter makes no sense unless you hold the random cartoon guy (who nobody here or at Woit expressed support for) as the consensus, and actual sc people, or fans of Peter.

The last part is just nuts, whole bit of Rationalization why he is actually justified, and will change the world. Not realizing everyone was horrified because he created a thought experiment to justify a genocide:

Reading the SneerClubbers’ armchair diagnoses of my severe mental illness, paranoia, persecution complex, grandiosity, etc. etc. I had the following thought, paraphrasing Shaw:

Yes, they’re absolutely right that psychologically well-adjusted people generally do figure out how to adapt themselves to the reigning morality of their social environment—as indicated by the Asch conformity test, the Milgram electric-shock experiment, and the other classics of social psychology.

It takes someone psychologically troubled, in one way or another, to persist in trying to adapt the reigning morality of their social environment to themselves.

If so, however, this suggests that all the moral progress of humanity depends on psychologically troubled people—a realization for which I’m deeply grateful.

this bit opens up so much questions, remarks and is just silly in some ways. Yes people who are dissatisfied will push for change, why is this a revelation? But do they have the power? Is it justified? Jared Taylor(*) also pushes for a changed morality system, but I wouldn't consider that desirable. It also leaves out that people will push for change because they just want to profit from it. Which is likely a lot bigger driver of change see the libertarian ls pushing for less regulations, because the dumb and distracted deserve to be scammed.

Anyway we got called out twice!

*: a white nationalist piece of shit who from what I heard is notable because compared to his peers he isnt a raging anti-Semite. At least not openly. **: Edit: as nobody mentioned the whole 'Peter is intellectually dishonest' affair, I have to say one thing. Peter is imho not intellectually dishonest for leaving out that the people who tie their children on the traintrack could stop at any time. The people who don't mention this just don't think it is a convincing argument. Yes people who take hostages could release the hostages at any time, still no reason to shoot through the hostages. Derail the trolley! The way Russia dealt with the Opera hostage crisis was considered bad for a reason (I hope I don't have to point out that the hostage takers also were in the wrong here). Forgot who it was who mentioned it here, but the whole 'I would be glad to not flip the switch' is one of the fucked up parts, it would scar people for life to make that choice.

Another edit: While thinking I realized the whole disgusting email thing is also partially due to the asshole filter effect of Scott closing his comments (which was smart tbh, he just should have told the people emailing him to fuck off): https://siderea.dreamwidth.org/1209794.html. Left a hopefully thoughtful comment (I looked at it just from the comments closing aspect and not with the further conflict in mind, as I have not begun to think about that, and don't want to think about it in context of what Scott wrote in his first blog post) about this on Peters blog. Not sure if he will let it through the moderation (and it is fine if he doesn't, and I doubt he will as he seemingly just closed the comments and went on vacation, have a good one Peter, apologies that your blog became a battleground over this). But I thought the concept was important enough as an idea to share, and also explains why you get the more shitty people to try and react when you go 'please don't react to here'. A thing we should also be aware of how the drive by commenters (which was worse on reddit) tend to be the sediment of the crop.

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

there's a place called r/nuclearweapons where people come, collect declassified and FOIA'd info, do some maths and speculate on how nukes work. 7d ago they had an incident where reddit admin removed a couple of posts from one user https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclearweapons/comments/1n4c1i3/we_had_a_thing_happen/ head mod stepped down in a response

four days later this thing surfaced https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclearweapons/comments/1n75vej/our_schmuck_from_doge/ linked article https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5464437-ai-nuclear-weapon-detection/

so probable sequence of events is that someone from anthropic talked up some bozo from doe or somewhere else, bozo from doe ran confabulation engine on some part of internet, and then notified/threatened reddit admin, who complied by removing some rando's account. whoa they must have saved quadrillions of americans by that brave action

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

Yet another lawsuit has hit Midjourney, this time coming from Warner Bros Discovery.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Kind of tangential to the sneer sphere. TIL about the Gayfemboy malware

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago

Such sofisticated methods, and then they drop crypto miners.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

ran across this

Kaminski told SiliconANGLE in an interview he was inspired to launch the company after seeing how long and difficult it was for medical technology firms to bring innovations to market.

“Everything that’s meaningful is regulated,” Kaminski said. “I didn’t even comprehend how hard it could be.”

“I could code that in a weekend” techbro meets decades-grown safety nets, is very surprised at complexity

I haven’t dug deeper into their thing yet but some of the claims are a bit 🤨 too

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ah yes, that great mark of certainty and product security, when you have to unleash pitbulls to patrol the completely not dangerous park that everyone can totally feel at ease in

(and of course I bet the damn play is a resource exhaustion attack on critics, isn’t it)

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think it's a resource exhaustion attack as much as a combination of legitimate paranoia (the consequence of a worldview where only billionaires are capable of actual agency) and attempt to impose that on reality by reverse-astroturfing any opposition by tying it to other billionaire AI bros.

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

really has turned into Scientology

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago

scientology but less coherent and with worse seafaring

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago

An interesting talk on the impact of the impact of AI slop bug bounty submission on the curl project (youtube).

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did you guys know Hugo de Garis went full time MGTOW a few years back?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I didnt know anything about him, not even who he was, but DuckDuckGo search suggestions suggested I search for him and mgtow, so the search engine knew. First link shows he isn't mgtow, he is a masculinist. https://profhugodegaris.wordpress.com/masculisting-the-mgtows/

His wikipage on his beliefs is wild. Legit beliefs skynet or eclipse phases TITANs will attack.

Quote from his site a free book he provides: "MASCULISM : Men’s Rebellion Against Being Manslaves to Women, An e-Textbook of 370+ Masculist Flyers for Men’s Studies Courses”"

Manslaves rise up you have nothing to lose ~~but your money in the divorce~~ as half your stuff was hers anyway.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

is this where Yud gets his style from? jesus fuck.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The more you read the worse it gets. And sadly, no all these manosphere dweebs write like this.

(A lot of them also credit Heartiste, which is why his popularity, enough for Scott to publish the anti-heartiste faq, which he didnt write. Was such a bad sign. (Also the guy is a neo-nazi racist, openly hated black and jewish people)).

Edit: And from Hugos blog: (source: https://profhugodegaris.wordpress.com/masctemp/)

"With a video you get not only the content, but can also see the emotion behind the content. Initially I only put up a video link to YouTube, but since the CEO of YouTube is a Jewish feminazi who censors and even terminates whole masculist and MGTOW video channels"

Look anti-Semitism. The fucker.

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I love how one of the benefits of crypto is anonymous money, but you have to upload an ID to buy some anyway.

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago

one horse laugh is of greater utilitarian impact across the quantum waveform of the universe than ten thousand syllogisms

[–] rook@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago

One to watch from a safe distance: dafdef, an “ai browser” aimed at founders and “UCG creators”, named using the traditional amazon-keysmash naming technique and and following the ai-companies-must-have-a-logo-suggestive-of-an-anus style guide.

Dafdef learns your browsing patterns and suggests what you'd do next After watching you fill out similar forms a few times, Dafdef starts autocompleting them. Apply with your startup to YC, HF0 and A16z without wasting your time.

So… spicy autocomplete.

But that’s not all! Tired of your chatbot being unable to control everything on your iphone, due to irksome security features implemented by those control freaks at apple? There’s a way around that!

Introducing the “ai key”!

A tiny USB-C key that turns your phone into a trusted AI assistant. It sees your screen, acts on your behalf, and remembers — all while staying under your control.

I’m sure you can absolutely trust an ai browser connected to a tool that has nearly full control over your phone to not do anything bad, because prompt injection isn’t a thing, right?

(I say nearly full, because I think Apple Pay requires physical interaction with a phone button or face id, but if dafdef can automate the boring and repetitive parts of using your banking app then having full control of the phone might not matter)

h/t to ian coldwater

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