I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won't listen.
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Here are some numbers to consider.
The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.
Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.
The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.
Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.
Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.
Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.
Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?
This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.
This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.
Source? Does this include energy / oil or only consumer goods?
Google is your friend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_trade_relations
Oh so this is just layperson's math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.
Trump and his ilk are trying to spread the idea that the US doesn't have to buy the $482 billion worth of goods ans services from Canada and its doing so essentially as a 'favor'.
Canada does not have the systems in place to sell to the rest of the world efficiently, especially oil. Which is part of why the Canadian economy is more dependent on the US than vice versa.
It looks like ~20% of the $482 billion figure you've cited is oil which the US could reasonably procure from elsewhere, even domestically, if there was a will to do so. Especially considering that Western Canada Select is high in sulfur and needs more refinement, making it less valuable on the global market.
Oh so this is just layperson’s math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.
Yes, I dumbed it down for the MAGA crowd and pedants on Lemmy.
Congratulations, you just proved Canada doesn't manufacture fuck all as compared,
Ok Trumper.
That the best you got? Read those numbers and fucking think.
Ok Trumper
I know it's hard, but you could try it.
I have no interest in playing chess with a pigeon.
You think repeating a very tired old cliche makes you smart? Fuck you. Doubt you can even tell a pigeon from a dove.
I wonder if this recent Redditfugee realizes that blocking on Lemmy doesn't work the same way it does on Reddit? By blocking everyone he thinks is a "moron" he is taking himself out of the conversation, not them. Now we can talk about him all we want and he'll never know. Of course he may just be trying to wrap himself in a comfort blanket of blocks to protect his fee fees.
If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.
This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.
It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.
Justin Trudeau tried to speak to the American people and did play heavy on the lasting friendship between the two countries. Will that dull the backlash against Canada? Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.
There's a personal enmity between Trudeau and Trump. Trudeau shot his mouth off a lot the last 8 years, and really ramped it up the last 4, never thought Trump would be back, and then went on the news crying about Trump winning wasn't fair, after making an ill advised trip to Mar a Largo instead of sending his foreign affairs minister, or anyone else that Trump didn't literally hate. Trump, he's talked a lot of shit about Trudeau being a two faced weasel and other (also not untrue) comments about his intelligence. If anyone is gonna fix it, it's Trudeau's replacement, coming fairly soon, or possibly the guy after that, federal election by early summer, late spring most likely. Trudeau's desperate need to hold on ten years into power when literally everyone was telling him to get the fuck out is really hampering us right now.
Trump hasn't liked Trudeau since he won Trump's stupid little handshake game.
yeah ok. anyone want to seriously discuss politics?
I'm not sure how you're going to talk politics without personality, and this is both indicative and typical of his personality.
... what? No lol.
you need to pay atention
I have been. You should try it sometime.
You clearly haven't, or you would know all that happened.
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You need to pay attention. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-kamala-harris-setback-1.7407402
Yes I have been. Trudeau is correct, a fascist is in power and not a woman. This has nothing to do with your point.
What was my point again? Doesn't even seem like you know.
I'm not going to remind you what your point was lol
so you don't remember claiming that what that link said never happened?
Do you know what I said no about? Cause you certainly don't haha
And blocked for being an utter moron.
You gonna block yourself?