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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Here are some numbers to consider.

The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Source? Does this include energy / oil or only consumer goods?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh so this is just layperson's math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.

Trump and his ilk are trying to spread the idea that the US doesn't have to buy the $482 billion worth of goods ans services from Canada and its doing so essentially as a 'favor'.

Canada does not have the systems in place to sell to the rest of the world efficiently, especially oil. Which is part of why the Canadian economy is more dependent on the US than vice versa.

It looks like ~20% of the $482 billion figure you've cited is oil which the US could reasonably procure from elsewhere, even domestically, if there was a will to do so. Especially considering that Western Canada Select is high in sulfur and needs more refinement, making it less valuable on the global market.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh so this is just layperson’s math on the back of a napkin. Thanks for clarifying.

Yes, I dumbed it down for the MAGA crowd and pedants on Lemmy.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Congratulations, you just proved Canada doesn't manufacture fuck all as compared,

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I wonder if this recent Redditfugee realizes that blocking on Lemmy doesn't work the same way it does on Reddit? By blocking everyone he thinks is a "moron" he is taking himself out of the conversation, not them. Now we can talk about him all we want and he'll never know. Of course he may just be trying to wrap himself in a comfort blanket of blocks to protect his fee fees.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That the best you got? Read those numbers and fucking think.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know it's hard, but you could try it.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have no interest in playing chess with a pigeon.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think repeating a very tired old cliche makes you smart? Fuck you. Doubt you can even tell a pigeon from a dove.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

When you're dealing with these people, just remember this.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago