"My vote doesn't matter" people, where you at?
this post was submitted on 02 May 2025
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They had no one to represent Thier views. So their votes would not matter.
"nobody is a carbon copy of me and I won't vote until that happens"
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While that is a huge issue on the left.
It is hard ATM to see a left of centre party that would unify even the more casual left. Labours current stance is closer to right for most as the overton window is so far right now compared to the past.
That may be true, but how if you're a leftist (for lack of better term), why would your decision be "I'm not going to vote for a left-wing party because they aren't united"? Or what is the reason they aren't voting left-wing? Is it because the left-wing parties aren't pure enough or too pure?
As for why many of rest of the left wing are not voting at all.
It is because they do not see any party offering to actually solve the problems or improve the nation. In any way they can actually believe will make a difference.
I voted green. As I disagree with them on less then the others.
But labour is no longer left wing. And in no way deserves left wing support. Certainly not the support of the 16m disabled in the UK.
But yes under FPTP the failure of the left wing to unite around any one party is the reason we have no representation.
But not the reason labour has treated us like a default vote without earning our vote.
Ah FPTP. That's definitely a bad vote counting system. Hopefully the UK will replace that someday. If the left did unite and stand behind a party that tries to get this through, it's possible.
Or revolution. Who knows.
Agreed. But FPTP is also needed by the right and centrists.
It will always evolve into a 2 party system. Where 3rd party or independents. Devide similar views.
But a theory I have expressed before. Our voting system has broken the UKs understanding of political compromise.
The 2 main parties are so used to having full power without 50+% of vote. Voters do net seems to expect parties with similar but different views to compromise at all. Also getting offended when they do. 2010 was an example.
6 votes is an incredible margin. Just shows that every vote matters.
I hope this isn't a sign of things to come
I think it’s uncertain for now. A majority of 6 votes is still a win but it’s also an incredibly unconfident win.
Runcorn is supposed to be the kind of place Reform keep being tipped to sweep but even in a byelection they’ve only managed a win by a hair’s breadth.
Reform seem to have a lot more work to do to win over voters to reliably take seats at a general election.
Of course, there’s still 4+ plus years for Labour to lose more voters also.
4 years for Labour to lose more voters, but hopefully four years for Reform to show off their incompetence and ruin any election chances, with any luck.
It feels like both are waiting, or even relying on, for the other to implode.
I bet there were more than seven votes for the Greens and Lib Dems combined.
I bet there was more than 7 people who'd claim to be labour supporters who just stayed home.
100%. Point is that if Labour had appealed to their left flank, they'd have held the seat!
Yeah that's true. I think the way a lot of people (myself included) read your original comment was that it was blaming those 7 people for voting wrong.
Objectively, both things are true! But I tend to think Labour is the one with the power and so they're the ones who should be changing, not the relatively powerless seven voters.
I don't think you can say someone voted wrong if they voted for what they believe in. As you say it lies with the parties to win people over (and potentially to reform voting systems so that people can vote for that they want rather than being forced to vote against what they don't want)