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[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 6 days ago (18 children)
[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We had a few good Linux phones back in the day but Nokia / Microsoft killed them trying to compete with iPhone OS and Android: Maemo / Meego were great but did not get a proper chance.

Jolla continued the legacy and Sailfish OS is still something worth checking out if you can find suitable hardware, or idk how complex it is to port it.

Seems to be new Jolla phone coming up at some point too: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone/23882

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[–] Blindsite@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They exist. People just don't buy them. But there is a Ubuntu phone port you can install on your phone as an alternative to android.

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/10762/status-update-on-the-next-noble-based-ubuntu-touch-release-february-2025

But yeah it can get complicated like any Linux community project and isn't at all mainstream.

People don't buy them because they don't fucking work.

[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think Linux phones will gain some real traction within five years. Last I heard, KDE is putting great effort into making apps for Plasma Mobile

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[–] Paddy66@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Contact your representative. And here's F-droid's article about it (including how to find your representative at the end of the article): https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Graphene users REPRESENT

[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (17 children)

Google’s developer verification will only run on mainstream Android with play services. It’s not supposed won’t be running in standard AOSP so the easiest solution would be to switch to a custom ROM like GrapheneOS.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 days ago (7 children)

They are also working to similarly kill custom ROMs. Just recently the GrapheneOS team mentioned that Google is no longer making their hardware drivers Open Source, and so compatibility with new phones means reverse engineering their own drivers - which is a big reason that custom ROMs support such narrow hardware options already and very often come with limitations and/or features that just don't work. At best, they figure out how to make it work, but it takes time and updates can lag significantly behind.

We have a lot of options on the software side for avoiding google (or android), but very limited options on hardware. We need open source mobile hardware support ASAP.

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[–] cosmo@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

While true, the pool of unlockable devices are dwindling fast.

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[–] coolkie@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

But remember, unlocking bootloader is harder and harder for many devices. And Google's Play Integrity and API changes makes removing trace of unlocked bootloader harder. Many apps not just banking, ChatGPT, games, some of social media is completely unusable in that scenario.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

European devs: Our laws will protect us!

Meanwhile, our laws:

Article 30

Traceability of traders

  1. Providers of online platforms allowing consumers to conclude distance contracts with traders shall ensure that traders can only use those online platforms to promote messages on or to offer products or services to consumers located in the Union if, prior to the use of their services for those purposes, they have obtained the following information, where applicable to the trader:

(a) the name, address, telephone number and email address of the trader;

(b) a copy of the identification document of the trader or any other electronic identification as defined by Article 3 of Regulation (EU) No 910/2014 of the European Parliament and of the Council (40);

Article 30, DSA

[–] take6056@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How is trader defined? Is it a developer that's selling apps or also one that's just providing it for free?

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

Newpipe, now signed by Norman Reedus, verification picture and everything!

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