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Well, just that. Wich is stronger against trackers, hackers and doxxing threats? Proton VPN (I'm using this one actually), or Mullvad VPN?

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[–] land@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 55 seconds ago

Has anyone used Mullvad vpn with a media server? I’m currently using AirVPN, but it’s not that good speed-wise. I’ve been looking at Mullvad for a while, but they’ve abandoned port forwarding, which I’m not sure how big of an impact that is.

I like Mullvad better

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 36 points 10 hours ago

Mullvad is much friendlier to privacy, but their proxies get blocked by A LOT of stuff, they also have a very small number of proxies. Mullvad collects literally nothing about you, but that's a double edged sword. not having any way to verify exactly who paid money into which account number means they can't help you if someone steals your account. I also have it on good authority that mullvad isn't very reliable at getting past more aggressive censorship firewalls. the one in china for example won't allow you to use mullvad unless the sim you're connecting from is a US one.

Proton doesn't record anything you're doing with their VPN and they've had to prove that many times and their "sentinel" program and the 2FA and double password you can enable make it very hard if not impossible for someone to mootch off your account. I very rarely get blocked by anything when I use proton VPN, if I ever do get blocked I just have to change the proxy I'm on. I don't even have to change the location most of the time because proton VPN has a huge number of proxies at each location.

Proton also gives you the ability to save recovery phrases and recovery files if you lose your password(s) or your 2FA

ente auth and ageis auth are great for storing your 2FAs and they allow you to back them up to a file if your account with ente fails in some way or if you forget the password to get into your ageis

as for those recovery files and phrases I talked about. save them in text files on a small capacity flash drive that you don't use for anything else

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 34 points 10 hours ago

I prefer Mullvad. Regularly audited, can pay with cash if preferred, everything runs on RAM, and hasn’t had any controversies so far. The only issue for some is no port forwarding. I also like the multi-hop and DAITA features.

[–] jimmy@feddit.org 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Mullvad. Their servers run on RAM, and they don't have any information about you no email, no username you can even pay with cash. However, Proton has port forwarding, while Mullvad does not.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

servers run on RAM

What's the different with zego logs alternatives, e.g. https://openvpn.net/as-docs/tutorials/tutorial--turn-off-logging.html

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Mullvad does have split tunneling on Linux and Android. I don't know about Windows.

[–] jimmy@feddit.org 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I don't know why I wrote split tunneling, I meant port forwarding. Thanks😀. Windows also has split tunneling.

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 10 points 9 hours ago

100% Mullvad

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Mullvad.

Proton has a Trump ass kisser working in their C-suite.

[–] MrCatCookies@lemm.ee 1 points 4 minutes ago (1 children)

Okay, but how does the political stance of Proton workers affect my privacy?

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 1 points 2 minutes ago

At the moment, it doesn't. He could decide to violate Swiss law and turn data over to Trump.

That would certainly affect your privacy.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 9 hours ago

Andy done some bootlicking... I guess removed for the regime is supposed to print generally but I don't think he understands his user base lol

Imagine

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 hours ago

Mullvad. It's cheaper than Proton. But Proton has more servers. Like Proton even provies Indian IPs, but the servers are hosted in Singapore, which may be something people need, as Mullvad do not have any servers with Indian IPs.

You can also try IVPN, it is almost same like Mullvad, no email for account, pay using Monero etc, but you can get a one week subscription for $2.

[–] Vaie@lemm.ee 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Mullvad hasn’t yet shown themselves fed- friendly.

Proton has.

Mullvad is the answer.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Source please, we in the /privacy community genuinely want to learn so when such things do happen, we all benefit from factual information. Please do not assume we all know what you are referring to. It is particularly in this kind of cases when, for example with Signal what was "shared" with authorities is basically irrelevant, cf https://signal.org/bigbrother/ so we must be precise.

[–] Vaie@lemm.ee 1 points 26 minutes ago

Proton has cooperated with subpoenas on multiple occasions leading to the user’s arrest.

While they may challenge them, the point is that they have cooperated and thus are not reliable. There are no reported cases of Mullvad doing the same.

There are ample links from multiple sources that describe this with a simple search.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

When did Proton show themselves fed-friendly? Also what "fed" are we talking about? The Swiss Federation?

[–] PunkiBas@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BevelGear@beehaw.org 3 points 51 minutes ago

Proton's statement from the linked article

"We are aware of the Spanish terrorism case involving alleged threats to the King of Spain, but as a general rule, we do not comment on specific cases. Proton has minimal user information, as illustrated by the fact that in this case, data obtained from Apple was used to identify the terrorism suspect. Proton provides privacy by default and not anonymity by default because anonymity requires certain user actions to ensure proper OPSEC, such as not adding your Apple account as an optional recovery method."

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

IVPN imo, just because it offers reverse split tunneling, if you prefer having more countries to choose from you can use Proton.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 9 hours ago

They still see source of email and meta data.

I am not sure why they would ban account for getting links tho