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Two decades ago, Sara Carlson, then a mother of three, was newly single because of a traumatic event, and the US’s food stamp program, now called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Snap), helped her feed her children with free food supplies.

“I wouldn’t have been able to afford to live,” said Carlson, 45, who lives in Rochester, Minnesota, and now works as an operations manager for a wealth-management firm and serves on the board of Channel One Regional Food Bank, which works to increase food access.

While the food stamps helped her, the government cut her off after a couple years because she started making too much money, which meant she again had to worry about having enough food.

Now, nearly 42 million people around the country could face the same fate if the federal government shutdown continues and funding for Snap is cut off on 1 November.

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[–] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 48 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fucking disgusting that Trump is literally counting on Democrats not wanting people like me and my family to have to worry about starving to avoid having to negotiate with them.

I hope like hell they don't cave to this fucking hostage tactic.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

They're going to eventually cut more benefits, including snap, anyway.

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But we got a new ballroom on it’s way!

The Jeffrey Epstein ballroom nonetheless.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Please, do not starve (3×🔗). Get your tax paid food from your storages.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You know, three skipped meals and all...

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lots of versions but yeah mostly its "nine" https://quoteinvestigator.com/2022/05/02/nine-meals/
I would argue that its less than 9 for people that have never actually experienced true hunger however.

  • 1896: The only barrier between us and anarchy is the last nine meals we’ve had. (Alfred Henry Lewis)
  • 1906: There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy. (Alfred Henry Lewis)
  • 1911: Only nine meals stood between civilization and anarchy. (Anonymous)
  • 1916: Only about seven meals stand between a man and anarchy. (Anonymous)
  • 1932: We are never more than nine meals away from anarchy. (John J. Fitzgerald)
  • 1942: There are only nine meals between man and revolution. (Anonymous)
  • 1946: No one is more than nine meals away from murder. (Theo. G. Lurman Jr.)
  • 1947: Every man is only nine meals away from Communism. (Leland L. Sage)
  • 1974: No man was ever more than about nine meals away from crime or suicide. (Eric Sevareid)
  • 1977: No country is more than three meals away from a revolution. (Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle)
  • 1980: You’re only nine meals away from being a criminal. (Anonymous prison inmate)
  • 1980: Each of us is only nine meals away from stealing. (Robert L. Eddy)
[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well in 2025 it will be an unlimited number of meals because the United States citizen isn’t going to do anything against the government, they are just going to steal from Walmart

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

People stealing from Walmart would fall under the "anarchy" part i would say. The last quote even says stealing specifically.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Stealing Food from a corporation is not anarchy while you let the government do whatever they want.

People are going to get arrested left and right for all sorts of things. There will be way too many people in prison and we will have to put them to work. Labor shortage solved.

Far too many people Think this is business as usual and that everything will be over in 2028 when Trump leaves office. But this shit is never ending. This is the new reality… And like reality, humans love to ignore it

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If almost nobody is following laws, then thats anarchy in my book. Im not saying that its immoral or bad for people to steal under these circumstances but that doesnt change the fact that its anarchy from a societal standpoint. Even if the state and its laws still exist, the outcome is the same as if they didnt.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They are following the laws. They are just disobeying one, which is going in and stealing food. That is the only law they are breaking. They won’t stop paying taxes, they will relatively drive the speed limit, they won’t kill people (Except maybe their neighbors for food), No one will go around raping or stealing televisions.

When you say almost nobody, that’s the incorrect part in my opinion. The vast majority of people aren’t going to be doing any of this. The vast majority of people can afford food – even if they cannot afford much else. The people who are actually affected by this are a relatively small amount of people. And the number of people who will actually die of starvation inside the United States because of snap shutting down will be absolutely zero.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mostly agree with everything you said, but

The vast majority of people can afford food

that might still be true now, but not for long. Unless something drastically changes the US is heading for a complete market crash. Without government intervention in the food industry, people will either starve or steal. If people keep stealing en mass then the store closes and then it gets very serious very quickly.

[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

It will get serious, but no citizen GROUPS will attack the government. At best, it’s a few angry people sprinkled about that will amount. There will be no revolution. There will be no uprising. It will be business as usual for most people.

Everyone keeps saying it’s about to happen, and then when it doesn’t happen they say the next thing it’s gonna do it, and then the next thing, and then the next thing. It is never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever going to happen.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 points 4 days ago

JFC, praying for you guys.