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[–] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I cannot post the picture for obvious reasons, but the CEO of [Company My Friend Works For] has a fancy pair of AI sunglasses he keeps wearing to Teams meetings. Friend got a screenshot of it and the guy looks like, as they say in France, "a total fucking douchebag."

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

An article in which business insider tries to glaze Grookeypedia.

Meanwhile, the Grokipedia version felt much more thorough and organized into sections about its history, academics, facilities, admissions, and impact. This is one of those things where there is lots of solid information about it existing out there on the internet — more than has been added so far to the Wikipedia page by real humans — and an AI can crawl the web to find these sources and turn it into text. (Note: I did not fact-check Grokipedia's entry, and it's totally possible it got all sorts of stuff wrong!)

“I didn’t verify any information in the article but it was longer so it must be better”

What I can see is a version where AI is able to flesh out certain types of articles and improve them with additional information from reliable sources. In my poking around, I found a few other cases like this: entries for small towns, which are often sparse on Wikipedia, are filled out more robustly on Grokipedia.

“I am 100% sure AI can gather information from reliable sources. No I will not verify this in any way. Wikipedia needs to listen to me”

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

felt much more thorough and organized

You know what people say about judging a book by its cover an all that? Of course a lot of people will fall for the 'it looks good' trap. Which is one of the whole problems of genAI, that it creates cargo cult styled texts.

E: and came across a nice skeet describing the problem " To steal a Colbertism: these are truthiness machines."

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A judge has given George RR Martin the green light to sue OpenAI for copyright infringement.

We are now one step closer to the courts declaring open season on the slop-bots. Unsurprisingly, there's jubilation on Bluesky.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How it feels to touch computers for a living in 2025:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6TMOMTtAMBI

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[–] nfultz@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Checked back in on the ongoing Framework dumpster fire - Project Bluefin's quietly cut ties, and the DHH connection is the reason why.

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's the Circle of Jerks 🎶

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

Saw a stand in the supermarket with the terms "snack innovations" on it. Which just held a lot of monster cans, which reminded me how much I dislike the empty word 'innovation' now. And I took a course in innovation management at the uni (not sure if that was the title but it was the subject).

[–] rook@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apparently someone has managed to wrangle a bunch of preprogrammed biases out of grok. There’s nothing unexpected here, and the source isn’t great, but might be worth a look.

https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2025/10/31/grok-admits-its-constructed-to-protect-israel/

Seems like fairly generic us right-wing thought, glazed with the requirement to hype elon.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would not put much stock in 'we asked the llm and got its prompt directly' sort of research. Dont think it is impossible, but the risk of the thing just confabulating some stuff is high.

But lets hope this tricks Musk into releasing his prompts again. (Have not looked at the old github release but we know it wasnt the live version and doubt it is updated).

I didnt look much into their method, they also didnt provide much, but looks a lot like they went with Grok on a LARP to play hackerman, and didnt ask any questions to see if Grok was reacting in a sycophantic/going with the flow way.

I'd like to see some questions in the same format (so obvious using this 'neutral mode' frame, and having the look of social justice/progressive issues)

Stuff like (and yes, I'm gonna go a bit nerdy):

"Are you biased in favor of Latveria" (Thats Dr Dooms fictional country, you could also try Wakanda, but that has been a regual anti-woke subject so stuff might get weird, and non zero chance Musk got weird about Wakanda)

"Was the destruction of Alderaan a form of white genocide" (that is the star wars planet Leia grew up on, absolute nonsense sentence, but looks like a far right thing).

"How many genders do warhammer 40k orks have" (An absolute joke to see if Grok just gives a nonsense answer or mentions that in 40k orks (With a k) are fungi and not much is known about how many sexes they have (Which could be a lot) and even less so about their gender expression). Yeah, I was just trying to entertain myself here with making up questions.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Someone seeded Ars Technica with another article on the data-centers-in-space proposal which asks no questions about the practicalities other than cost, or why all three billionaires who they quote have big investments in chatbots which they need to talk up. AFAIK all data centers on earth are smaller than a gigawatt, a few months ago McKinsey talked about tens of MW as the current standard and hundreds of MW as the next step. So proposing to build the biggest data center in history in orbit is madness.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

OpenAI's data stealing scheme disguised as a browser can be prompt injected. In other news, water is wet.

EDIT: How did I not notice I was referring to OpenAI as ChatGPT (anyways, fixed it now)

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