Well aside from the fact that this update nuked my pre-existing effects, this is fantastic!!
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It also nuked some of the popular Gnome extension integrations. It also kept the "test mic" channel open, even after I had closed it. Needed to restart to fix it.
Overall, it seems to come with some functional bugs, in addition to the UI changes.
definitely doesn't look as good as the GTK did, but I hope they simplify the interface at some point There's no reason to keep these 3 menu areas, just bundle them together in tabs or one side menu to keep the hierarchy of players and effects under output/input.
edit: it's actually 4 areas counting the preferences at the top right
Maybe they could keep output, input, pipewire at the top. Then make preset, players and effect tabs or a side menu below those. For consistency it'd also mean changing presets to be full screen like the other two
I think I'm about ready to switch to something QT based. Whether that is LXQT, KDE, or Trinity is still to be determined.
I'm a long time xfce user and my battle with CSD has ended with me losing. Too much stuff just breaks. I've more or less been forced to use adwaita as my theme for everything.
Hell, I'm already running plenty of QT software already.
I'm with you. I've never really liked the look of QT, but I think I'm going to go for it anyway. It's always felt more plasticky and artificial, compared to GTK feeling more grounded and earthy. Plus, KDE has always felt cluttered in every way they can clutter it. So I was into the boxes (I was partial to fluxbox) and XFCE back in the day. Played with Gnome 3 a bit, had a cyclical love and ultimately hate relationship with it, but got hung up on Gnome as the best option when I wanted to switch to Wayland.
I've been using Cosmic since January, and I like it, but I'm left wanting more out of it. I was thinking of spinning my own environment with LabWC, but... meh. It's a lot of work, and I want something more integrated.
I've been using KDE in Asahi on my Macbook Air a bit, and I guess I could use it more. But I don't really use that machine a ton, either. Mostly for it's better speakers than my Thinkpad, and I have it connecting a VPN automatically until I can be bothered to switch from iwd/systemd to network manager on my primary.
God I wish Gnome would change it's tune, and stop being so militantly simplistic. The idea of extensions is great, but using a rolling release distro is rough when you're relying on a bunch of extensions to make your DE suitable. I really like their approach to UX at it's foundation. Cosmic is showing a lot of promise, and has that configurability built in, and I do look forward to where it goes. but it's going to have this problem where a lot of the software that looks best in it is libadwaita, which enforces drastically different UX.
Ah, now I remember why I bought the Macbook.
wow looks dogshit compared to previous one
Definitely looks worse, but I can see why they made the change, gtk is a pain to work with compared to qt
why?
I have not tried GTK because I cannot fathom why would anyone use a UI toolkit written in C. But even language trash talk aside, it's probably easier for a C++ project to use a C++ GUI library instead of a C one albeit with C++ bindings. Also I've read somewhere that it the C++ GTK bindings are kinda sucky.
These are just my assumptions, though. Someone who has tried both GTK and Qt might give a better answer.
You can do both gtk and qt with python though.
Yep! Guess it’s time to fork!
Ah good, this was one of the few GTK apps that I couldn't get rid of.
can't wait to have it unthemed and ugly on my libadwaita machine 🤪
Better than GTK file picker jumpscare
mine has this brown color in some places and idk where I could change it in the KDE theme/settings
Global Theme > Color > Edit Color Scheme > Common colors > neutral text
thanks, I had to restart to see the change. Why is a "text color" being used as background though
Probably because "neutral text" color is rarely used by other softwares and they use it to prevent conflicts
no hatred toward GTK, but if all Linux softwares use GTK I will switch back to Windows, again no hatred toward GTK
I mean, if you're ready to ditch an entire OS, your privacy, and deal with all of Windows' bullshit because of it, I'd say it's absolutely GTK hatred lol
I probably exaggerate it a bit, I do have a burning hatred towards Windows but not GTK so I don't think I'll switch to Windows if all Linux softwares use GTK the most I'll do is using VM.