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The French government threatens GrapheneOS to provide a backdoor or be arrested
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That's how you know something is great software.
this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2025
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Don’t do this France.
France can go a la merde!
This isn’t actually a problem for the OS. They will just pull out of France.
Its a problem for everyone because you can be sure if it catches on in France it will spread
So if they did this in Iran would it be a problem for everyone?
I get what you're trying to say but this isn't happening in isolation, and ideas (good or bad) spread. "Just leave the country" works great until it's your country, or until there's nowhere else left to go.
Realistically, what can France even do? It’s not a French product, and they don’t have a business presence in France. It’s a Canadian non-profit. And yeah I get that parts of Canada think they’re French, oui oui, but that’s not going to be a problem.
To affect the project as a whole? Probably not much short term. But they can make things difficult for French users by either banning the OS, or trying to ban bootloader unlocking in general. And sure it will be largely ineffective and difficult to enforce to start with, but it won't stop them trying like with all the age verification bullshit thats popped up everywhere recently. Longer term they can do what Denmark are doing with chat control and keep trying to make it EU law every couple of months until eventually it passes.
And they will get away with it because the average citizen doesn't care or even know. Most people don't even know that installing alternate OSes is possible, and of the ones that do many don't bother with it themselves. And as for an OS based around cyber security and privacy? For most people cyber security is just the thing that means their password has to be Password1! instead of password, and privacy is just something schizophrenics and criminals want.
I don’t know, I don’t really see it as a problem. If people don’t want this to happen they should kill the people trying to do it. Seems like a pretty easy solution for the French
Don't France's special forces and government use the Graphene OS open source code for some of their systems? Sounds to me like they want to have their cake and eat it too.
Not that unusual with a large country. A lot of people involved
Oh fuck
This is an excellent chance for Apple to step up and defend the opposition against a common enemy for the greater good.
Good one! 😆
does the dev live in france?
Sacrebleu!