Not sure what experience with Java you are talking about. As a Dev, modern Java still rock solid and is finally quite convenient to use and the JVM itself is a great runtime.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As an admin who has to update it, work with it, or interact with it from a workstation or server, it's a terrible experience.

[–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, that I can understand. But any modern Java application should be shipped as a container were this isn't an issue.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"My car is super reliable, but only if you put it on the back of a big flatbed truck."

[–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't see how you'd have any less problems with a natively installed Node.js, Python or PHP application. This is not a Java specific issue.

[–] Deifyed@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's millions of lines more code. In a dockerized world, there is zero reason to use another virtualization layer

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Java isn't any of those.