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People hating on 'your joke but worse,' but they took a minute to add to the image instead of just retelling the punch line.
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Sleep apnea probably
A fixed work hour is killing us...
The old days were better
Just grab a brush and put a little makeup.
Incredible
Lol
I've actually found a trick against this!
- Pick a "must get out of bed before this" time. For me it's 9am.
- Pick a time 2-3 hours before that. For me, best was 6:30am
- Set up alarms evenly spaced, at least 10 minutes apart. Ideally the spacing should reduce as you get closer to the "must be out of bed before this" time. E.g. for me, it's 6:30, 6:45, 7:00, 7:15, 7:30, 7:45, 8:00, 8:15, 8:30, 8:40, 8:50, 8:55 and finally 9:00
- Go to bed and be asleep at least 6 hours prior to the first alarm. I often can't do this but I try.
- Once the alarm wakes you, take a moment to assert just how tired and shite you feel, and if you don't, time to get out of bed.
- If you're still feeling like a piece of week old dogshit that got put through a full washer and dryer cycle, go back to sleep(ish), nap, or just rest with your eyes closed.
- Rinse and repeat steps 6 and 7 until you feel optimal or need to get out of bed.
In a few days your body realises that while it is waking early, it also has an opportunity to rest to the optimal point, and said optimal point will start appearing. For me that's usually between 7:45 and 8:30.
There's a number of apps that promise to find this sleep sweet spot, but in my experience they're quite hit and miss. This method though has been super precise for me.
If you have a partner sleeping with you, who doesn't have to wake up as early as 6:30, please dont do that
Pick a “must get out of bed before this” time. For me it’s 9am. Pick a time 2-3 hours before that. For me, best was 6:30am Go to bed and be asleep at least 6 hours prior to the first alarm. I often can’t do this but I try.
your "trick" is to intentionally rob yourself of 1/3 of your available sleep time? that is the worst trick in the history of tricks, ever.
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You're just butchering REM sleep at the end of your night. A sleep cycle takes about 1.5 hours for most people. If you wake up feeling like crap, it's likely you've been woken up in the middle of the cycle. Even if you go back to sleep, you presumably start a new cycle and should properly wake up ~1.5 hours after that, which is in fact confirmed by your ‘optimal point’.
Typical eight hours of sleep is five cycles plus padding of thirty minutes either for those having trouble falling asleep or for a slightly longer cycle. You'd do better figuring out your cycle length and how long you need to fall asleep.
Clearly the cycle doesn't restart every time I wake up, if it ends at the ~1.5hr mark (which by the way is quite fluid, sometimes as little as 30min, sometimes it doesn't happen until 9am).
I have tried figuring out both cycle length and falling asleep time, but thanks to my raging ADHD I sleep quite restless (it's frequent I wake up 2-3 times during the night), and need lots of time to fall asleep (and no, melatonin sadly didn't help). So for me this trick works.
it's frequent I wake up 2-3 times during the night
Did you ever notice the time between wakings? For me it's three hours pretty much on the dot — i.e. I have a regular 1½-hour cycle, but prefer sleeping for two cycles minimum for some reason, and do the same with naps.
As for the cycle being restarted, REM is deep sleep, so you're unlikely to get it if you're woken up all the time.
It's quite random, the time between wakings. If I go by smartwatch data it's anywhere between 10 minutes and 4 hours. Consciously remembered ones, those are almost always 2 hours on the dot.
Sounds like you might want to try going to sleep 8.5 or 9 hours before the obligatory getting up time, and just get up if you wake up by yourself a bit earlier.
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Are you crazy? That sounds horrible. Just put an alarm for 9am or wake up naturally sooner. If I am asleep by 12, I'd just naturally wake up between 7-8am usually.
If you can wake up naturally.
The goal is to find the sweet spot between sleep cycles - a cycle interrupted means you feel like shit. If 9am happens to be in the middle of a cycle, you're fucked.
But by "waking" up (not fully) at 7, then picking the time when you're not mid-cycle, you can avoid all that.
- OK... 4:50 if I want to be on time for work. Next.
- Um... 2-3:00..? That's usually when I wake up in front of the computer and realise I haven't actually gone to sleep yet...
- Um. I don't see how interrupting my sleep every ten to thirty minutes during what little time I actually manage to stay in bed is supposed to make me less tired (other than by giving me the sweet release of death), but OK..?
- 6 ho... Heh. Hah. HahahaHAHAHAHAHaHa COUGH cough wheeze Aargh, my bones...
...
Oh, wait, you're serious. - Don't need a moment. I always feel like I've just been beaten to death.
- Can't. Gotta get to work.
- What if I'm not a suicidal masochist, though..?
What worked for me is just setting an alarm for 8 hours from when I get in bed, or when I need to be up, whichever comes first. I wrote a Tasker automation to manage it for me, and all I have to do it press a button when I go to bed.
... you call that a 'trick'? I thought that's what everyone does :)
I've been there though, it was really hard for me to wake up. But I've found my own tricks:
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Get a smart lightbulb in your bedroom, program it to turn on dim and slowly get brighter in the morning. Don't get one of those wake-up lights, they're super expensive and weak as hell, it should get as bright as possible.
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Get an app/alarm where you have to do something to turn it off, like scan a qr-code in the bathroom. I do math problems, because I could walk around for an hour but if my brain doesn't get active I'll fall right back to sleep 😣
A fourth time and fr i'd kill myself lmao
try sleeping without curtains and letting sunshine onto your skin
don't force your eyes open. don't force your body to move.
let sunshine awaken you in the morning. literally activates mitochondrias, which travel around the body to wake up all. sleep naked therefore
mitochondrias, which travel around the body to wake up all
Just so it's clear, mitochondria (which is already plural) sit inside cells and can't travel ‘around the body’.
fuck have i been compromised by the article i read on light therapy?
okay actually i mixed that together with something else. fuck, too much screentime and feeds for me
"Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell" is a meme and you still somehow didn't learn it
I have light sensitivity and dealt with migraines for years before I realized blackout curtains were the cure.
I would kill myself if I had to go back.
That would be nice, except I'd be two hours late for work :( Works great in spring though.
You can't be naked and have the curtains open here. Its indecent exposure and you go on the sex offender registry.
Which country do you live in? Genuinely curious, as I tend to sleep in the nude. (it helps that nobody can see through my window)
The US. Some states ban all nudity that can be seen from a public location, some states allow for accidents and only criminalize doing it on purpose.
That’s a bit intense, unless that person is an exhibitionist and is intentionally doing so from inside of their apartment. When they know others have a clear line of sight from outside.
It's that lovely theocratic bent we've got.
Can you elaborate on that?
Christian Puritanism has been a strong influence on American culture for hundreds of years.
Is it similar to Greek Orthodox? Or a completely distinct variation from the older variants (Catholic, Greek Orthodox, the recent Protestant) in Europe?
South asia has the Syrian Christians which has changed over time due to the local culture.
It's a little complicated actually because it describes both a specific movement and a general moral-police trend, in the way Luddite has two meanings. Skimming the wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puritans should cover the major points but the short version is they believed the government should enforce Proper Christian behavior and they hated Catholics (and most other Christians). Also they banned Christmas.
Thanks for your patience and help, in teaching me something new. :)
It goes back to before the nation was founded, the first colonists were largely Puritan, which was a fundamentalist protestant sect. They had a lot of strict beliefs about sin, sex, and temptation that are basically why we have this hyper-conservative culture and are weirdly prudish about stuff sometimes.
okay some pajamas then. sunlight shining in your face, hands and feet is adequate too
just takes longer ime