Graduate students famously never make mistakes (like including their own hair in samples) and also never smoke weed. So that couldn’t be it.
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Datura Stramonium isn’t weed and is almost never used by anyone… also it’s not from central America
They especially don't smoke weed. No sir!
And especially not mushrooms, no way.
There's also never even an ounce of lsd
The seeds are carried by birds and can survive in a dormant state for years.
Lots of stuff like trees washed away by rivers end up floating in the ocean.
But it's also perfectly feasible that a limited trade happened far in the past.
Polynesians showed that you can reliably cross even the pacific on boats made using stone tools and fire.
Limited trade... There were full on global trade networks through most of human history. Ironically, not as much across the Atlantic, because civilization in the Americas was centered on the West coast
But you find all sorts of stuff turning up everywhere. Not much of it, and most of it is lost to history, but enough to establish that global trade networks were the norm and not the exception
Humans before the Ice Age were fishing for tuna in the deep sea and were coastal hopping everywhere there are coasts to hop.
Most of human history:
I was going to research this myself, but then I got high.
I was gonna write my final report, but then I got high..
And now I'm shitposting on Lemmy and I know why, yeah-heah...
why man?
Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high
Lah dah dah, bah dah dah
Some things get around because they're so pretty, don't worry about it
I walk past this plant all the time and I'm super tempted. I did salvia so I feel like the effects shouldn't freak me out. Rn I just kill them with gloves. We get also get Ricinus, that's not as tempting.
To give an honest answer, it's so fucking invasive I wouldn't be surprised if actually managed to survive a trip across the Atlantic or the pacific.
The question is how? I don't think we'll know until we find the "vessel" that carried it.
I tried stramonium a couple times by smoking some seeds, I would describe it as unpleasant enough to not bother again, in the just not worth it category.
i've not done datura myself but by all accounts it's much more like benadryl than salvia, to the point that benedryl is described as being "like datura junior". you should check out some of these trip reports and think long and hard about if that experience is worth the risks to you.
Don't, every trip report is horrifying, there are better ways to get high, that are also safer.
On top of being a bad experience datura doses are very hard to get right, you are very likely to overdose and die. And like I said, If you don't die, you will get a traumatic experience that can possibly fuck your mental health for decades.
Alternative drugs exist if you want to get high. Please check trip reports and harm reduction sources before trying anything.
Like salvia but worse. And every salvia story is awful.
isn't that like the nightmare drug, that you can rather easily die from?
Yeh, I just want to make a weak tea and slowly try it out. The seed pods sound horrible, but I'm probably going to make tea from the flowers.
Don't. Just fucking don't.
I've eaten the seeds, they're nasty unless dried out. Read the dangers beforehand. It'll mess with your vision the next day, supposedly there is a chance of going blind. The hallucinations I experienced were pretty convincing, you might want to have a friend keep an eye on you. My buddy overdid things and got picked up by the cops, they put him in the psych ward
Nah, that's what I expect. I have the chillest sober sitter in the world. I'm already going blind, so vision stuff doesn't freak me out. (I have recurring uveitis) I hope that doesn't happen, though.
Wouldn't it makes more sense to take it then once you're already blind? Then there's less risk of blindness technically
I also did salvia but I wouldn't touch datura with a 10 ft pole.
Oh god, I wouldn't touch salvia divinorum either unless you want an intense, mind-melting trip that lasts 5 minutes and a sweaty itch all over your body that lasts for 8. That's not a recreational trip, that's for people who want to feel uncomfortable as a new life experience.
Yup. I don't regret doing it, and the short duration was one of the things that pushed me over the edge. I wasn't looking to exit reality for hours at a time. It was an... interesting and instructive experience, but I didn't feel the need to repeat it again. DEFINITELY have a sober sitter with you, I was apparently trying to throw myself off the stairs.
There’s a bunch of Datura species, that looks like Datura wrightii.
Wouldn’t there be other possible plants that would provide the same alkaloid compounds?
That was what I thought until I reached this part with a link to another paper.
Charred capsules of Datura stramonium were recovered in a Middle Bronze Age ritual pit at Prats, Andorra, ca. 1600 BCE
Ohhh daaaaam!!
Birds?
It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios!
But birds aren't real, haven't you heard?
Heard what?
A well a everybody's heard about the bird B-b-b bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
Damn Central American Swallows!
Have to be migratory, of course.
Uh, that's... Shit! I was going to sleep soon too!