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[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

I take exception with the mixing of the stone cold fact that we're all stardust with all that other crap.

It is good to be able to vape some weed and watch beautiful videos about amazing mind-blowing shit that actually exists, and not automatically entertain whatever magical/religious/supernatural idea is making the rounds in your neck of the woods.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

I’d rather just kill all 3 of us tbh.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

im not even joking i will sooner become a shaman that lives in the middle of the woods than a techbro im so done with tech i swear

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

IMOHE that just means you are probably a software engineer

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[–] socsa@piefed.social 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Post scarcity is kind of an odd man out here. The idea predates tech broism by a solid half century, and informs a lot of contemporary leftist theory. There is nothing inherently wrong with using utopian thinking as a guiding principle for iterative policy. I'd argue that anything which doesn't do that is cynicism.

[–] killea@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It occurs to me that I'd argue we're heading towards a forced scarcity society rather than post scarcity. That's the only way they can make sure we don't get a Star Trek type future if/when we figure out fusion power. Hell, we've already basically been able to feed everyone for ages.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

We aren't heading towards that. We're already in a forced scarcity society, and have been for at least 25, if not 30 years. That's why all these "economic bubbles" keep happening. The ultra rich worldwide have hoarded $350,000,000,000,000 at the expense of the other 8,000,000,000 people. Maybe 5000 people have more than $50,000,000 in personal wealth. Not only do they have nothing to spend it on, they keep throwing trillions of dollars into the latest dumpster fire of an "investment," so they don't have to pay $0.01 to anyone that isn't them.

If we killed the obstructions to progress and innovation, then we may have to kill 5000 people, but everyone in the world would be able to have a $400,000 stake in The Sovereign Fund for Humanity's Poor, paying out an average of $20,000 a year per person while reinvesting 95% of the ROI. When you're dealing with 100's of Trillions of dollars, I have no idea what ROI % you could reasonably maintain, but 13.5% would mean that everyone on earth doubles their fund, and therefore their yearly payout every 7.8 years.

[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Artificial scarcity is definitely nothing new. Look at the diamond industry, for example. Diamonds are common as hell, but they regulate the supply so severely in order to sell these cheap chunks of carbon for thousands of dollars.

If there's no competition in a market willing to race others to the bottom in terms of price, there's no incentive to actually produce a reasonable amount of something people want. You can just withold supply and charge way more.

Or just the fact that grocery stores throw away thousands of tons of perfectly edible food every day while there are people dying of malnutrition. They aren't starving, they are being starved.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Diamonds

So we need cultured post-scarcity, the lab-grown stuff

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[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Option 4: multi classed Weed wizard, Dweomersmith, Epic Dweomersmith, then Time Wizard.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We are all stardust though. Billion-year-old carbon.

[–] Krelis_@sh.itjust.works 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

And we got to get ourselves

Back to the garden

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

He-deh, de-deh-de-deh-de... 🎵🎶

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

yes but do you consider that important in any way? if you do you are closer to the person on the left

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

I would say it is a neutral fact.

Imo there is no meaning to life, everyone decides for themselves what to live for.

If someone likes the fact that we are made from starstuff, why yuck that yum specifically? It is kind of a nice perspective to take sometimes when life gets stressful.

It is also a part of a nice song by Joni Mitchell and a nice speech by Carl Sagan, both people I admire, but not something I think about a lot...

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

I do think human exceptionalism will cause the extinction if humanity unless humans figure a way out of the idea that humans arent just monkeys who figured out how to manipulate fire, rocks and electricity. There are individually exceptional humans no doubt, but we're not really special from a biological standpoint, at least not more biologically special than say a sperm whale or octopus, etc

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] tourist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Depending on how serious you are:

Choose weed instead

Or the crisis line. You probably already know where to find it. Help is available. You do not have to suffer alone. I love you homie.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's an assassassin. He never said the death was his own...

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or the crisis line.

What happens is that they “triage” you, where depending on how you answer their script you get cops at your door and a trip to hell on earth, or you are on hold for 20 minutes to speak with someone who also is reading a script and doesn’t give a rats ass about you.

Maybe states that aren’t Oklahoma have mental hospitals which are preferable to drinking yourself to sleep, but who knows.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Just kidding, unless given that exact choice lol. Weed has been a great help this year. Love you too fam, appreciate the thoughtful comment.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I once liked the idea of being part of some new age, neo pagan group and mindset and being 'outside the mainstream' but the more time passes the more I regress into a hole of solititude that no one can breach.

Even last summer I wanted to see if I could finally go out and find a girlfriend... now I am seriously going back in my hole.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I've found that trying to find a girlfriend is futile. I'm 45 and have girlfriends whenever I want to deal with that level of drama and commitment.

The trick is to go out and find groups that are also into your hobbies. If you are actively improving yourself to get better at a hobby seems to be attractive to everyone, though I will admit that far more homosexual or bisexual guys hit on me than women, unless I should count the compliments I get, those come from women more often than men, but I don't know how to gracefully receive a compliment. My standard response is "Thanks, umm [insert something complimentary towards the person in question.]"

The only thing that seems to be more attractive than my previous advise is to be wearing a wedding band. That comes with problems you don't want to deal with though.

[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

I have met the guy on the right irl. He was unbearable

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stellaris players: How it feels to have a Spiritualist empire on one side of your border and a Materialist empire on the other.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

My Pacifist Egalitarian Xenophile space elves: "Just be nice guys!"

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

You know... there's a Space Hippies AI Personality mod on Steam. It's actually really funny.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

This is so overwhelmingly hyperbolic I’m not sure what to take from it

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We scoff at them both, but seriously pick one and get comfortable, looking reality right in the butt-cheeks is bad for the soul.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Stop looking at the cheeks, grit those teeth, and give that anus a good gander.

(Full disclosure: I am not a therapist, but it's good advice.)

[–] stepan@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we will make global anarchy by tomorrow. no more money, capitalism and suffering, trust

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I choose neither, and instead day dream about fully automated luxury gay space communism, knowing I'm gonna die before such a thing could ever come to fruition.

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean scientifically speaking, we are all made of stardust. Everything in the universe is. Including the existential crisis your trying to forget by disassociating.

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[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Basically the dark shadows of the Hippy Age Of Aquarius and sandal-wearing tech Utopianism corrupted Into evil by the baby boomers ageing into the dominant political class in the West.

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[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just want to drop in and call out "death is a design flaw" specifically. It is not. Without death, there can be no evolution, and any change to the environment is extinction.

The mountains seem eternal, but there were forests before many of them, and though the trees will be different in the distant eons when the mountains are worn to nothing, the forests will live on.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hmm, why can't there be evolution without death? As long as organisms reproduce, genes are passed on, and some reproduce more successfully than others, why would it matter if existing individuals stay around or not? I don't see how it makes evolution fundamentally impossible.

Without death you can't have reproduction, you'd get way too many organisms to be sustainable in any way.

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[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

That's pretty cool in nature, especially with plants and fungi that don't think. But applying it to people is kinda eugenics-y. "Billions should die so that our genes can improve"

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, giving ourselves endless lifespans is a fine endeavor. We've got plenty of ways to adapt to changing environments without changing our bodies, and we're pretty close to being able to do that without dying and evolving anyway. Shit might get weird, but it always does with us.

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Based. I always think stories about "immortality is bad actually" are weird because people are fundamentally capable of change. Lots of people choose not to change, but I think that's because the boredom in their life is smaller than other forces like poverty, oppression, trauma, and culture. Give people infinite time to heal from their traumas and I think they eventually will. I think enlightenment is a more stable state than ignorance.

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