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    [–] dawcas@scribe.disroot.org 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Wait, guys, are we over systemd already?

    Time to rewrite systemd in rust. I don't have time to hate them individually /s

    Those that work professionally with the stuff - since years.

    [–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    I too am upset Rust dropped Linux support a few years ago and never developed the Vulkan graphics engine they had promised. I understand the anticheat issues but still, it's a fun game. Figure it out, Facepunch.

    [–] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

    I was very confused there for a second

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    [–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 177 points 4 days ago (11 children)

    Wayland is superior. Yeah I said it.

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    [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago (13 children)

    No quams with wayland or rust, but snap packages, those things annoy me greatly.

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    [–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 122 points 4 days ago (34 children)
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    [–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children)

    Man, I really don't understand what the issues with Wayland are. Granted, I'm new here and a pretty basic user so there's some underlying issue that seems to be breaking people's setups, I guess I just haven't encountered it. I went from using Mint for like a month before I switched to Arch. And I only did that because my second screen was acting goofy on Mint and I figured in for a penny in for a pound, let's see why people are so afraid of this distro and haven't had any serious issues in the past two years.

    [–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    My issue with Wayland is just that not everything supports it. I tried switching to Wayland this year and immediately I ran into issues with software that weren't compatible, like Steamlink would not stream over Wayland, but switching back to X11 it streamed just fine. At least in my experience, Wayland itself is not the problem, but developers not supporting Wayland is the problem. The moment I run into just one program that I want to use that doesn't work with Wayland, I am going to permanently switch back to X11. I think most users think that way. Most don't want to switch back and forth to use a program, if a single program doesn't work they will just revert to X11 and stay within X11.

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    [–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    For most ”laymen” Wayland works just fine. I prefer Wayland because it has proper support for fractional scaling, which is a must for monitors with higher resolution than 1080p.

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    [–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

    Wayland has been around for many many many many more years than Wayland has been good enough to use. I think that's about it.

    Arch is definitely the most stable and usable distro for me as well. Fedora and suse shit the bed constantly when I used them. I assume arch has the same image problem due to legacy. I know when I first tried Manjaro maybe 7-10 years ago because everyone said how great it was, doing a simple pacman update after install immediately bricked the computer. My experience with endeavor has been perfect, other than the poor spelling of the team.

    Note all of the arch stuff above is for servers. I can't stand Linux for laptop use, it's not worth the effort.

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    [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I'm the same with systemd. I'm aware it gets a lot of hate from people but I dunno, seems fine to me. It's never given me any trouble that I can think of.

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    [–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Nah, I strongly believe the ones who are so butthurt by this are the developer equivalent of NIMBYs

    [–] deltapi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I dunno. I still don't use Wayland, but I have no problem with people developing for it.

    [–] BJ_and_the_bear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I just don’t want Xorg to die, we’d lose many cool desktop environments and window managers

    Nothing dies in Linux. But it might lose support from the mainline kernel (for xorg, it may take another 50 years).

    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (19 children)

    Most complaint against Rust is fucking culture war, not technical, so people who actually have technical concerns with Rust are being lumped together with Brian Lunduke and others.

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