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[–] theblips@lemm.ee -1 points 6 hours ago

Honestly, just erase all graded homework, papers included. All of it. It wasn't even good at anything to begin with and we would just cheat off each other, but now it's even worse.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine paying tens of thousands of dollars (probably of their parents saved money) to go to university and have a chatbot do the whole thing for you.

These kids are going to get spit out into a world where they will have no practical knowledge and no ability to critically think or adapt.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 24 points 19 hours ago

Yes and no. Remember that rich kids could always hire ghost writers. ChatGPT made that available to the masses, but that particular problem goes back centuries.

What we have seen is that the curriculum is often decided by a distant committee who actually doesn't understand life on the ground. In reality, there are easy ways for teachers to undercut the utility of ChatGPT, if they have the freedom to make changes. But that depends on teachers having control and the time to make changes to how they teach.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

What's breathtaking is how clueless education system administrators are failing at their jobs. They've been screwing up the system for a very long time, and now they have a whole new set of shiny objects to spend your money on.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

In my former school district they paid a ton to some consultancy firm to "use AI to optimize the bus route". The first day of testing the new route many kids didn't get home until after 9pm. They cancelled school for the rest of the week and then immediately reverted to the old route.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Maybe the best headline that's come out of the recent LLM explosion

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 42 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

Unpopular opinion:

I am a public school teacher and I support public schools, but there have been a lot of issues with our education system for a long time. Talk to any kid with ADHD who had to sit through 12 years, and they are indicative of a larger problem. Our idea of school now is as a place that teaches kids to behave and mostly follow rote instruction. Wouldn't it be so much better if we were teaching kids to be creative thinkers, work well in groups, problem solve, and think critically about the information they're getting? We know that's what school should be, but maybe now we will be forced to go there. Yes, there will be issues like learned helplessness and certain skills being difficult to teach, but it's kind of exciting too.

Though it's also possible that public schools will close and only the wealthy kids will be well-educated... can we not, please?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 20 hours ago

I wouldn't call it unpopular because how the education system works in America and several other countries has been a very obvious problem for decades. What we should be teaching is more barometer question

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometer_question

The student admitted that he knew the expected “conventional” answer, but was fed up with the professor's "teaching him how to think ... rather than teaching him the structure of the subject.

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[–] happydoors@lemm.ee 11 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, I think many kids could easily approach AI the same way older generations thought of math, calculators, and the infamous “you won’t have a calculator with you everywhere.” If I was a kid today and I knew I didn’t have to know everything because I could just look it up, instantly; I too would become quite lazy. Even if the AI now can’t do it, they are smart enough to know AI in 10 years will. I’m not saying this is right, but I see how many kids would end up there.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

This could be complete bullshit because im not an expert but i sometimes think that we could have a future where without testing and nurturing peoples critical thinking skills we end up with people who dont know how to create a rational argument or assess information they are given for its accuracy and authenticity, or to know when they are being deceived by malicious actors.

English writing assignments as simple as a book report require you to take different views and angles on something to understand it better and the nuances of the whole, but tell a LLM to write it for you and you are not developing that part of your own mind where you may learn to do things like see the whole story above the individual events noise, see things from others perspective/feelings and understand alternate world views. These are critical for having empathy for others and understanding the world around you.
And that is just one small example i came up with.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Brave New World? No, the rulers aren't that benevolent.

1984? Still no, they aren't that competent.

We are heading for fareinheit 451.

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[–] p3n@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Is it really screwing up the education system, or is it just revealing how screwed up it already was?

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[–] WanderingThoughts 54 points 1 day ago (26 children)

That's going to be great fun when the AI bubble pops and the subscription prices go up exponentially.

On the other hand, there have been other opinions about education that say it should be about making or researching something. Give a student a goal and let them figure it out using chatbots or whatever.

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