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Hey everyone! I'm finally fed up with Win11 and the bullshit that comes with it for the PC it's on.

It's being used as a Jellyfin+arr stack, qbit, Immich, and gaming PC for the living room.

I'm currently in the process of backing up all my important info and am doing research on which distro to use.

I don't mind tinkering, but for this PC, stability is key. I don't want to have to go in and update it every week... I want this one to work with minimal maintenance on my part.

I'd likely update it a few times a year, knowing me.

A few hardware specs:

MSI mobo (I've learned that UEFI can be a pain), 10600k, 2070 gpu, and will have a pool of 3x8tb drives that I would like to have in raid5 (or something similar) for storage (movies, TV shows, and Immich libraries), the OS will have its own drive, and I have a separate SSD that I have been using to store programs, games, yml's for docker, and other such things that get accessed more frequently, but aren't crucial if lost.

I've kinda narrowed it down to either Bazzite or CachyOS.

I've heard that Bazzite can be a little more locked down, which I'm not a fan of, but CachyOS has features I will likely never touch (schedulers, kernels, etc...).

I don't want an upkeep heavy OS. I'm moving away from windows for that reason. Win11 has been a nightmare for me with constant reboots and things not loading up until after I log in. Not to mention driver conflicts and all the other BS that's come with it.

So... What say the hive mind? Is Bazzite going to be too tinker-proof, or is CachyOS just way too much work? Or do I have it all wrong with my perception of both?

Thanks!

Ps: this will be my first full commit to Linux. I've dabbled in the past and am no stranger to CLI... So this will likely be a stepping stone into getting my primary PC onto Linux. Go easy on me lol

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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I have neither used Bazzite nor CachyOS. You're sure you don't want to try Linux Mint? It's extremely stable Linux for your grandma. Seriously, my dad's laptops run Mint, and have for the last 5-6 years. When he gets a new laptop, I go over and install Mint for him (and he doesn't know what Linux even means, he keeps calling LibreOffice "linux"). He asks me for help with his Windows desktop all the time (which he needs for certain software), but linux "just works" (his words). My son's gaming computer and our house TV (which is an oldish Dell All-In-One that both my son and my wife need to be able to use) also run Mint.

For me, work computers that need to be stable run Mint, work computers that need to be secure run Qubes and servers run Debian.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I second this; Mint is great if you want to set up once and get going.

[–] ollie@pawb.social 5 points 3 months ago

seconding this, my gf struggles with tech, i put her laptop on linux mint and shes had a much easier time using it

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago

My 70 + year old mother uses pop OS and has a degoogled phone that she uses signal to measage. Switching cost is a lie... the tech bros always switching things up so much anyways... Whats is stable and reliable anyways. This world is a shit storm of corpo tech bro nonsense. meh

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Linux mint is pretty chill! Debian I think? Its got all the bells and whistles. When I set it up for the first time it kinda reminded me of windows. I also like redshift which does not work on pop OS which I use now as a daily driver.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, Mint is Ubuntu.

LMDE is Debian.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ubuntu is also Debian under the hood.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but it's more up-to-date and Ubuntu has Canonical tentacles all over it.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most (all?) of the bad Canonical stuff is removed in Linux Mint. It's the reason for its existence.

You do get the good stuff though like Ubuntu's better hardware support and PPAs etc that Debian doesn't have.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

I know.

I was just replying that Ubuntu and Debian are different.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That last bit is why I run LMDE. Ubuntu was great for a while (started using it 2010-ish), but I don't like the direction Canonical is going these days.

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't mind tinkering, but for this PC, stability is key

I don't want an upkeep heavy OS

Yeah I wouldn't recommend a rolling release distro like cachy then lol. Debian or it's derivatives would be better for something low maintenance that you don't need to update frequently

I also wouldn't recommend bazzite, just cause im not a fan of immutable distros as they feel too locked down for me, but I've never attempted to set up a jellyfin on one, so someone else with more experience would provide a more concrete answer for your purposes there

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I want something stable and an arch based distro don't really go together.

One of the Debian family is best for that.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Arch based distros can be very stable these days.

People forget that SteamOS on the Steam Deck is Arch based.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what's the point of using arch if you won't be going any heavy tinkering or using bleeding edge shit? debian is the objectively correct choice here

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[–] sam@piefed.ca 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Bazzite is good for gaming and general computing. If you want to run servers or tinker with the OS at all it becomes annoying and impractical.

Fedora is stable, with modern packages, and is what Bazzite is based off of. I'd probably recommend that.

Debian is rock-solid stable, but lacks newer packages. It's great for a server, not so great for gaming and general computing.

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[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Okay, aside from all the distro advice, I have some practical install advice.

There's a program called Ventoy. At ventoy.net

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD(x)/EFI files. With Ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD(x)/EFI files to the USB drive and boot them directly. You can copy many files at a time and Ventoy will give you a boot menu to select them

Most distros these days have a live CD option, meaning you can run the distro and test how it feels without actually committing to an install.

So, take all the distro options here and throw them all on a thumb drive with ventoy installed, then you can simply boot into each one.

Now, my personal fav distro is called Garuda. It excells at gaming, and can do everything you want, but will put a red blinking icon in the task bar if you don't update every week or so.

Garuda is Arch based.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ventoy is great. I have a dedicated 128GB flash drive with a variety of ISOs, including various live and full-install Linux distros, Windows (LTSC only + MAS scripts), and diagnostics (Hirens, memtest86, etc).

Incredibly handy to have on-hand.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 11 points 3 months ago

Debian. It’s rock solid. You don’t need anything flashy or new fangled if you’re just building a home server.

I wouldn’t suggest bazzite or cachyos for a newbie.

[–] UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Between those two I would recommend Bazzite, but I think I would actually recommend Bazzite's parent distro, Fedora, instead. Mainly just because I don't know how Bazzite would handle server software.

Also to note, updating Linux is significantly quicker and less painful than updating Windows

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The issue with Fedora for OP is its update frequency might annoy them. Bazzite doing automatic updates might feel more "set it and forget it" for them.

I also would expect server software to be fine on bazzite, just run it in docker containers (which you should be doing for hosting services anyway)

[–] kumi@feddit.online 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No joke. It feels like I'm constantly catching up with Fedora. And I am a person who finds system upgrades recreational. It is not a good pick for OP.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’ve been running Fedora on one of my computers fore years. It’s pretty good and stable, but there are lots of updates. I haven’t really bothered to tweak or update that much, which seems to be a bad combination for Fedora. I think this distro requires more maintenance than I’m willing to give it.

For example, updates used to work for a while, until one day they just didn’t any more. I fixed that, and things were ok for a little while, until another update broke the GUI again. Eventually, I just got tired of troubleshooting a basic thing like the update GUI, and stopped fixing it every year. I just ignored the GUI, and installed updates through the terminal instead. I just can’t be bothered to fix the GUI more often than maybe once every 5 years.

Eventually, I realized I don’t have the time or energy to do that much admin work for a computer that doesn’t matter that much. Had it been my primary computer, that wouldn’t have been a problem, but in this case it was. Recently, I switched to Debian. Let’s see how well that system handles the level of neglect I’ll be subjecting it to.

Besides, that computer doesn’t even require the latest versions, so why bother with Fedora. Debian should be new enough for my needs, and installing updates like few times a year should be fine.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There's a lot of well meaning but not too well informed advice in here. Since one of your goals is gaming, stay away from Mint. It can be made to work (well), but you have to get there. It's basically the recommendation people gave for decades, but there have been massive improvements through many distros while mint just kinda stood still. There's still some things they do rather well though.

CachyOS will do what you want it to, and it is what I switched to like 8 months ago. It isn't maintenance heavy at all if you don't want it to be. I think I had to intervene once since I started using it, but that intervention was necessary or it wouldn't have booted after updates. The official updater will tell you when that's the case, as it lists critical news like that. Otherwise it just works, and it's pre-configured and optimized for gaming. Under the hood it's basically Arch, just without the fiddling of getting it to a usable state. Because of that they're is also an enormous amount of information out there (Arch wiki) on how to do stuff.

Bazzite is a stark contrast in many ways as it's an immutable distro, but also pre-configured and optimized (maybe not quite as much as CachyOS). It will also do what you want just fine. It is relatively "safe" due to the immutability, and updates are much rarer (and by definition always whole system updates). I don't know exactly how you'd run your services, but assuming they are dockerized or similar that should be just fine, but please do some searching before if it does contain what you need in the base image (presumably docker and docker compose).

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Since one of your goals is gaming, stay away from Mint. It can be made to work (well), but you have to get there.

Mint works just fine for gaming. I run LMDE 6, all you really have to do is install Steam with Proton. I also run RPCS3 without any odd configuration outside of game-specific items (which you would have to do on Windows as well so it's a moot point).

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[–] ridethisbike@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I was running everything through Docker, so that will be a must. Jellyfin was on its own executable, but that was because something with transcoding, I think, wasn't working with docker. I don't remember now what the problem was, but apparently the issue didn't exist in the Linux docker version. It was isolated to windows.

If it's not in the base image, there will be a way to add it, yea?

Somewhere else in the thread someone mentioned Bazzite not being ideal for servers, but I'm still parsing through all the replies, so I'm unsure how accurate that is.

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 months ago

Docker and Bazzite are not plug-and-play. That being said, bazzite comes with podman, and podman can create a docker environment.

But...I am not an expert here by any means. Do not take this as a green light to just go ahead and pick bazzite. Bazzite is my daily driver and I use podman to run arch and Ubuntu CLI programs as well as an ollama local llm server, but I know NOTHING about docker, I just have seen the docs and thought I would share.

[–] Xilence@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I switched to Bazzite last week, and also run Jellyfin. It's been a pain. Hours of troubleshooting. I'm still having an issue with metadata, but I think that's actually just Jellyfin. That said, most of the issues were easy to fix, just hard to research. SELinux is a pain and messes up Jellyfin.

Sudo Setenforce 0

And it works like a charm. Doing volume labeling does not work. Other than that, you just need to adjust to using podman instead of docker.

Oh, and gaming just works. STALKER 2 runs better on Bazzite for me than it did on Win10.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

On Linux, running Jellyfin through docker with GPU acceleration works fine, yes. But you need some options/flags to pass access to the GPU to the inside of the container. Guides and/or docker tutorials exist and should contain that, as that's basically the default setup these days.

As for Bazzite and Docker (I just checked), no it isn't part of the base image and you can't easily install it. That's the downside of an immutable distro. I think podman is available, which is compatible and FOSS, but there may be caveats to using that. There is a bazzite version called bazzite-dx intended for developers, so that one would probably work fine for you out of the box. There shouldn't be any real downside to using that compared to the mainline image, apart from being slightly larger cause all dev tools are installed, but do check that. My practical experience with Bazzite is limited.

My real recommendation is: just try it. Slap in a small/cheap SSD (~20 bucks) instead of whatever you got in there now, install CachyOS and try it out. Then install Bazzite and try it out. By "Try it out" I do mean setting up a copy of or a test-install of your required services (arr stack, jellyfin, ...), to see if everything is as you'd expect. Possibly install more distros to try them out, then make up your mind and actually fully migrate, or if it doesn't work out go back to your currently installed drive. Installing a linux distro takes like 10 minutes these days, then play around with however long you need. Since you already have it narrowed down to only 2 options anyway, that is most likely the best solution.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

These Linux Docker images may be of use to you for setup.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I cannot recommend Bazzite enough. It is amazing, and it’s based on Fedora, which is also amazing. I’ve used Arch based distros before, and they can be really cool, but they break once in a while, especially if you haven’t updated them in ages.

I’ve turned on a PC with Fedora after a year and a half, and just updated as usual, and it all worked. Bazzite is even easier, because updating simply means downloading a new base image and updating your Flatpaks. Easy peasy, and very quick.

To get Docker, to run your servers, in Bazzite, you can use ujust:

https://docs.bazzite.gg/Installing_and_Managing_Software/ujust/

Or switch your base image to Bazzite DX:

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite-dx

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

my first full commit to Linux

a stepping stone into getting my primary PC onto Linux.

Linux Mint is a pretty good stepping stone into the world of Linux. Or Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE), for Ubuntu/Canonical free experience. Especially if you prefer low maintenance distribution. Debian has pretty long release cycles, and LMDE, being based on it, will share similar release cycles.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago

If you game, Bazzite with KDE is damn near perfect. I've been running it for a year and never had a problem making it do what I want it to do.

I don’t want an upkeep heavy OS.

Bazzite is immutable, updates are easy and not bothersome, and if for any reason one ever breaks something, a single command (sudo rpm-ostree rollback), you go back to the previous state, easy peasy.

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Try something conventional, with low maintenance and large adoption, and tailored for the home user, like as Linux Mint for instance.
Take your time there to learn the basics and get acquainted with the new environment.

Cachy is nice, and flashy and cool, but is a rolling release, sometimes it gets broken by some package update (...systemd), and it might need some tweaking to get a temp fix while the repo updates align to stability again. The good thing about cachy is that being based on Arch you're gonna fully benefit from Arch wiki which is nothing short of double amazing.

Bazzite too is very nice too for gaming setups, but I had a bad experience on the underlying Fedora atomic distro on which I was installing an old printer which required software was not in the repo and which were offered only as .deb packages (made for Debian), which required a socially unacceptable amount of time of tinkering. That means with Bazzite you're all set if your hw is very streamlined, but if you're using something peculiar you are on your own.

If you really want the latest updates for gaming, but also benefit from the large adoption of a debian based distro you can also try PikaOS, which is Debian testing release optimized for gaming experience, think about it like a Cachy based on Debian rather than Arch

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=pikaos

just keep in mind that in comparison to Mint it surely be less tested, and that anyway even with cachy vs mint in gaming tests the advantages of cachy are practically negligible, and the main difference in perf is given by gfx driver quality, in which specific case nvidia linux drivers are historically the black sheep of the story

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago

Pika is friggen amazing. I started my Linux journey with Bazzite but kept having weird issues and switched to pika. Shit just works and doesn’t get in your way.

[–] Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Can highly recommend Bazzite. You can install most applications and terminal programs no problem through flatpak/brew and config any well behaved package through settings files in your home directory anyways. If you really need specific system level packages, then it's quite straightforward tinkering to setup a GitHub repo that builds a daily image for you based on Bazzite. If you break something, you just roll back to a previous build.

And for testing out new "live" packages: you can! Just make sure you don't forget to persist them into your custom image if it turns out to be a useful addition.

I think I added just a handful packages on top of Bluefin (the non-gaming version) and it runs rather merrily.

Immutable sounds locked down, but to me it's more like highly reproducible tinkering. Just keep your home dir clean ✨

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

I’ve heard that Bazzite can be a little more locked down

No this is generally put out there by people that don't understand the workflow of an atomic distro. Yes the file system directories are generally readonly. You can still layer packages, or use flatpaks and sysexts to add software or install things in a container. There is nothing much that can't be achieved in an atomic/immutable distro, its just a different workflow. If you want something unbreakable an atomic distro is the way to go

[–] OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I would definitely give Bazzite a try. If you are looking for stability and a set and forget OS. If you don't like it you could always try something else.

If you are looking for something to tinker with and change things like manually changing packages or messing with services you probably want a more traditional "non-atomic" os

Don't let talk of the filesystem being "read only" scare you. You can still save files to your desktop and documents and stuff in your user folder.

In windows terms it's more like imagine C:/windows being read-only so you can't break your system. You can still write files to other parts of the drive, but it prevents you from messing up your install (some people like this added layer or stability, some don't like it because it makes tinkering with your system harder)

An atomic OS is kinda like a phone OS, in the sense that every version of iOS 26 comes with the same version of Safari and the same libraries. It makes it so any bugs are reproducible and easier for the developers to track down. Packages are pinned to the OS version. (For example all installs of Bazzite 20260101 will include Nvidia drivers 590.44.01-1)

In a more traditional Linux distro because packages can be updated to whatever version if you install Ubuntu the version of Nvidia drivers is not tied to the OS version. You could have an install of Ubuntu 25.10 and could have a completely different Nvidia driver version from someone else on Ubuntu 25.10. This could make bugs harder to trace because you could have the same OS version but different packages. Think of this like even though you and a friend could both have (Windows 11 25H2 installed you could have different drivers installed)

As for updating Bazzite generally auto updates once a week in the background. It requires 0 manual intervention and keeps your packages and drivers up to date. You can turn this off if you wanted to. Since it uses a "image" based approach (again imagine upgrading from iOS 26 -> 26.1) it is able to save the previous version of the OS. So if the upgrade broke something you can roll your system back to a known good state with a single command.

If you are looking for something that's set and forget I would definitely give it a try.

If you want to tinker with it and figure out how Linux works I would probably try arch or something

[–] Madiator2011@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Used both CachyOS and Bazzite. Bazzite works great for Steam Deck like device but for desktop daily driving CachyOS with Cosmic DE never got issues and I was distro hoping a lot before.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone stick to one distro? Just jump in figure it out yourself. I had no help and I managed. Find a beater and beat it. I started on mint... now I run 4 distros. JUST DO IT! People will cringe but I like pop OS amoung many other. I just recently installed https://www.coreboot.org/ and linux on a old acer chrome desktop. The documentation was sparse and incomplete but by the grace of dog I got it working. It was a pain in the arse but pretty neato after I was done. I have it on a roling cart to test and set up routers or do things with networks when I need to connect externally to test stuff out. The struggle and the uncertainy is the point.... from there it will snowball into you wanting to install linux on every thing. But whats up with this BSD thingie... like I said crack some eggs!!! The feds can crack anything but the point of it all is to take control! Have you tried a bootable USB or virtual machine? I find all distros relativly stable clearly, windows or mac OSX have never met my standards anyways. Always back up your files. Thats my inflated 2 cents. Get some... get off the pot before you forget how to walk!!! Everyones got opinions like they got arse holes. PS. if it is a tower just add more bootable drives. Who cares if it fails cause you got it backed up! When things break it is a oppertunity to learn and cry.

[–] khleedril@cyberplace.social 5 points 3 months ago

@andybytes @ridethisbike Have to say I really disagree with this. Life is too short. Pick one and stick with it, it will serve you well for many years to come.

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[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

just download mint and distrohop from there until you feel settled. there's too many options to make a final decision from the start. mint works out of the box and you get get a hang of it.

OR use cachyos but prepare to open the archwiki frequently

bazzite is not meaningfully tinker-proof. Ask a person who says that what they can't do and they can never answer something that you actually can't do.

[–] pokkits@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Check out Nobara. It is based on Fedora, comes out of the box with everything Bazzite has for gaming (Steam, gamepad/joystick support, etc..) but is not an immutable distro and not as heavily locked down.

I've been a Windows systems admin professionally for 20+ years and although I've managed a few Linux systems professionally, at home I've mainly used Debian for tinkering, running Docker, and dedicated servers for me and my friends. My personal PCs have always been Windows based.

I really wanted to use a Debian based distro, because its what I have most familiarity with, but there just isn't one that isn't Ubuntu based or updated frequently enough for the gaming I like to do. I'm sticking to Deb for my servers. Fedora is just as mature and reliable, and gives me the degree of control I want over system config without being cumbersome. I have some pretty specific network config and software requirements that necessitated some tinkering in /etc and .conf files that Bazzite was not going to let me do.

I also wanted a PC that just worked, minimal tinkering. I do not want to spend my gaming time trying to troubleshoot obscure Linux issues. My personal PC use is like 80% gaming. I have a good virtual infra home lab setup. A Synology NAS that holds my music/movies/file archives.

Nobara setup was a snap. Ditto installing Discord. Both webcam and headset were auto detected. I installed a few flatpak apps including VLC, Putty, Firefox (preferred browser). VLC was able to stream video/audio from my NAS without any additional changes.

Fired up Steam, installed Elite Dangerous, plugged in a T16000 HOTAS joystick and done. Was playing that same night. Ditto any games using my Xbone gamepad.

The only fishing I have had to do online for remedies and workarounds have been related to some small 3rd party apps I use to support games like Elite Dangerous. Most additional software I've installed via Flatpak, which is amazing. However, by design flatpak apps run in sandboxed environments and are not given full/free access to the file system. (this is a great thing). I've added Flatseal to give me a GUI for modifying flatpak app permissions when needed. (Discord, for example, needed additional permissions to allow me to copy/paste screenshots/pics into chat)

I created a separate partition for installed games. Most guides offering help on installed games assume games/apps are installed or looking in your /home folder, but for me it was on a separate volume, which required permissions tweaking or just looking in a different path.

I cut over during the holiday break. Overall, the transition has been seamless and painless.

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