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As it turns out it doesn't actually cost that much on regular transit, there's an AIRPORT SURCHARGE because it's an "airport train".

No wonder Americans don't use public transit, even when the system exists it's ridiculously difficult and expensive to use.

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[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 13 points 5 days ago

JFK rail transfer to Jamaica Queens is like... Shit like 8.50? Then you can get on the 'regular' subway. It's way cheaper (and can take about the same time from Manhattan) than using a taxi or an Uber.

So your airport transportation is 8.50 on top of your metro card (34 a week which easily is covered if you are about the city at all).

WAY cheaper using the subway in NYC than owning a vehicle. A month for the metro is 132 for comparison.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i wondered, who is this person who is so out of touch that she thinks that is a reasonable price, and... she is a former member of congress from orange county who is currently campaigning to be governor of california 🤡

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[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

In case anyone is wondering, a one way trip from Oakland International Airport to the Civic Center station in San Francisco (the stop next to City Hall and the city's largest open air fent market) is exactly $12.65.

The trip from Oakland to Civic Center is "just" $5.20, but like OP said, there's a fuckass stupid airport surcharge for the last half mile or so.

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[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Bart is expensive, but some of the best transit in America unfortunately. Why I generally just hop the gate by pushing through before the things close

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People pay to ride the train?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Some good-two shoes do, most do, but alot of people dont. hence reddit had whole host of people being, caught,evading fares,, you got people on there being a know it all, and you should be paying your fare share.

Oh for bay area, there are specific times of the year, that inspectors come out in droves to "ticket" as much people as possible, usually its around summer-to fall, and then maybe winter. there has been discussion how the evasion tickets are much more than TRAFFIC tickets/parking tickets. right now is about 135$ for each violation, and there are all sorts of tricks to avoid that even if yuo get ticketed. there is alot of justification for evading fares.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

for bart, it charges by the distance, for muni, they recently up thier fees for tickets, they are also have a budget mismangment issue which causes thier budget problems. they waste twice as much as they bring in through fare evasion fees, and transit fees, last i heard they are cutting some services in the summer. and there has some justification for fare evasion(just dont discuss this on reddit, because its mostly been infiltrated by do-gooders conservatives)

caltrain is a seperate agency than, bart, muni.

the mismangment parts: 1 of the problem is they spent twice as much as they are recouping in transit fees, lik 6+ million hiring inspectors over 2-3 million in fees. visit the reddit subs for more info.

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The current toll to cross the bay bridge by car from Oakland to sf is $8, and like someone mentioned it's only $4.25 from Oakland to sf without the airport charge, so you are still saving by using bart, just not as much as you probably should.

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