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Russia Cannot Accept NATO Troops in Ukraine Under Security Guarantees - Foreign Ministry (sputnikglobe.com)

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[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't trust NATO. They should have been dissolved decades ago

[–] Tuscy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many nato politicians are in the Epstein list or something parallel to that.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

My money is on all of them

[+] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Right. Putin would love it if NATO didn't exist, because then there would be nothing stopping him from expanding the Russian empire all the way to the Atlantic.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let us know when Russia has 900 military bases around the world

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don't need 900 military bases around the world to invade their neighbors and steal their land.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism. I'll take you seriously when I see you as invested in Western imperialism as you are now.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Whataboutism" is when you try and change the subject. Like, when someone says "Russia likes to invade their neighbors", and the response is, "whatabout the US having 900 bases around the world?"

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, what about is keeping quiet while your country does it but then scream "what about the russian savages".

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

First of all...not "my country".

Second...that's not how this conversation went. We're in a post that is talking about the Russia / Ukraine invasion. Calling it what it is, is not "whataboutism". It is directly addressing the topic at hand.

"Whataboutism", is trying to distract from that, with all the "US bad" misdirections. Yeah. We all know the US is bad. No one is disputing that. But Russia can't just dictate how Ukraine defends itself, especially when Russia is the one attacking them.

If someone was punching you in the face, and told you they'd only stop if you dropped your guard...would you?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about the entirety of the European army? What about simple reality? Do you think that just because the West is expansive and invasive like cancer that Russia necessarily will be that way? You understand how the war in Ukraine took place and how America couped them, right? That Ukraine is in everything but name (but even in the theatrics you can see it) an American proxy state? Is that why others also fear China, because they associate capacity for murder and power to bloodthirst and amorality since that's all they know?

[–] Tuscy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Ukraine is an Israel proxy. Might not make sense yet but just wait.

[–] Flying_Lynx@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We, on the other hand, don't accept Russian troops in a sovereign Ukraine. And actually don't accept Putin in general.

[–] Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Damn, Russia somehow didn't account for that. Guess more war is in order.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Luckily your opinion doesn't have any effect on reality and your governments are puppet States so nothing will change.

[–] Flying_Lynx@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Perhaps not. But the reality is that Russia sucks at all levels and tries really hard to stay relevant by behaving like raging idiots.