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Obviously it’s not smart to switch to a Cloudflare-plagued network like that of Matrix if your goal is to escape US tech giants. For strictly internal use on self-hosted instances, sure. But as soon as a matrix room becomes open public Cloudflare rears its ugly head.

Zulip and SimpleX are probably better options. Certainly IRC is a better option so long as the channel has no Matrix gateway. SimpleX is also free of Cloudflare.

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[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do you need Cloudflare for Matrix?

[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You don’t. But you don’t get to make that decision for everyone you talk to. People /erroneously/ think they do, so it has become impossible to participate in a public discussion without Cloudflare in the loop.

FOSDEM 2026 demonstrates this embarrassment. Every single FOSDEM talk this year has a link to matrix.to (Cloudflare). Even if your own account is CF-independent, the rest of the crowd who you correspond with is not. You cannot isolate yourself from Cloudflare and also participate in FOSDEM rooms. That’s not ETS.

[–] _Nico198X_ 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i don't see the connection here. it's not about Matrix.

[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

follow the link. See the title. Read the article. It’s about Matrix.