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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 145 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I admittedly haven't looked very hard for an alternative. But I fully expect to be forced to move elsewhere in the next year or two due to their increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Same. I just hope my friend group and by some extension the gaming community chooses something that won't fall into the same pitfal of closed source for profit organizations.

I hope the transition is towards matrix, or something like it.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully, I would love a discord alternative that does the same thing but is open sourced similar to the fediverse.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

What genuinely confuses me is who they're finding to buy this shit to begin with.

I've seen so many of these failed "Join our club to score points to get tokens to buy virtual dongles that you can use to get into our more-elite clubs with better points and color tokens" schemes over the last ten years. It's like everyone wants to be Chuck-E-Cheese, nevermind that the company went bankrupt five years ago.

Even if all you care about is profit, it seems like this is an abysmal means of generating it.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh it's undoubtedly going to fail, but it should milk enough money out of their users to keep them going while their investors cash out

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[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The replacement is matrix.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.

The word you're looking for is enshittification.

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the exchange rate of Discord Orbs to Stanley Nickels?

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 52 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You know, I've seen this image at least 15 years ago and thought it was a joke.

Now that I'm older now, I'm guessing this is an actual diagram for implementing and perhaps patenting interactive commercials?

We literally reward people in our society for being as shitty as possible. Can we stop doing that?

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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They truly have zero clue how users actually use their software. Not a single person is going to use this just like every other stupid gimmick feature they've added in the past and then promptly removed.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 75 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You couldn't be more wrong.

People actually use the shop. they are spending $10-20 on a profile picture border. Now you are telling them that they can get them for "free"? You bet people will do it. Paid cosmetics have poisoned minds.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ehhhh I see people with Nitro-included cosmetics but not a lot that have the individually-purchased cosmetics. They exist, sure, but not even close to as many.

I mod a server with 40,000 users and I'm scrolling through the member list as I type this. Majority are either unsubbed accounts or they have the cheap basic Nitro. A lot of the cosmetics I am seeing are the free ones they've given away in recent events. Not many users have full Nitro and have their profiles all decked out with additional cosmetics.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have the "touch grass" one from April Fool's day. It's pretty funny.

I paid $30 for a year of Nitro basic. I don't think I'll do it again. All the actually useful features for me (longer messages and bigger uploads) are behind the more expensive one, and it's not worth it.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, Discord whales exist. Some people are REALLY proud of their profiles.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Users on reddit and lemmy always seem to think ad-based stuff is going to fail, and then it turns out people in the real world are depressingly accepting of ads. I would bet that this program is more likely to be expanded than canceled.

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[–] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

How in the hell has that app gone so far down? This must be a record in enshittification.

[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, di$cord has definitely been speedrunning the deterioration of their platform.

It's a shame because they started as a darling of the gaming community with a lot of loyalty when people were switching to micro$hit like $lack and team$.

I guess capitalism and endless growth don't actual translate to improved products for the rest of us. Go figure.

It'll be nice when our species moves to decentralized platforms like Matrix, but every day we wait is another day I don't get to enjoy it.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mark my words, any free service that hosts images is on the cycle. I saw it happen to Reddit and Imgur

Promising to host everyone's data for free forever is a promise that only a devil at a crossroads can make

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well they changed CEOs a month ago

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I warned my friends that Discord is looking to go public. Just wait, it's going to get a lot worse.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wanna see my orbs on discord?

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

RIP Discord.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago

Next thing you know the 'orbs' will be NFTs and we'll all be expected to grind away at their 'quests' (probably training AI) to earn 'real money'.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 22 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck this shit.

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How do I bot this so I don't see the ads and get free nitro so ads are removed?

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾.

There is one community I’m active in on Discord, and it’s a very wholesome and positive one id hate to lose, but damn I’m hating Discord.

Is there a CLI Discord client for Linux? I could tolerate that.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can host your own matrix instance then bridge discord (and everything else from LinkedIn messenger to WhatsApp) to matrix with double puppeting so people won’t even realise you’re not on discord.

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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Chortle my orbs

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there a peer to peer equivalent to Discord? That feels like it would be the best option, since it wouldn't rely on a centralized company that could enshittify the product.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 26 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

Only option available is Matrix. It has its problems, but they're being worked on.

Right now it lacks the gaming/voice chat parts of discord - so for an OSS alternative for that part of discord specifically, there's Mumble.

For everything else, Matrix is a good alternative. Just be sure to pick a discord-like client. (E.g. Commet or Cinny)

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[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

how good of an alternative is matrix to discord?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not as feature rich, quite buggy, inherently more private but also less usable.

The above compounds when trying to get the non-techies to use it, because sometimes it doesn’t just work

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

enshittification is full force now

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

The end is coming

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Online software development life cycle in a nutshell:

Startup - Geeks are in charge and you're creating a cool communications platform.
Mature - Accountants are in charge and you're gamifying ad clicks.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Hopefully Revolt (a Fediverse alternative to Discord) continues to improve and can completely take the place of Discord relatively soon.

Edit: it might only be FOSS, not federated. Still a promising project though.

[–] Hack3900@lemy.lol 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think Revolt is Fediverse, afaik it's entirely centralized without plans for interop or federation
Please update me if I just didn't find the right reference

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

You're correct.

As of right now, Revolt does not feature any federation and it is not in our feature roadmap.

However, this does not necessarily mean federation is off the table, possible avenues are:

  • Implement our own federation protocol
  • Implement a promising up and coming federation protocol, polyproto
  • Implement the Matrix protocol (unlikely, obtuse and unstable)
  • Implement the XMPP protocol (battle-tested and stable)
[–] NGnius@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is Revolt federated? I thought it was only FOSS

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[–] ozoned@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This has been tried and tried again. The first time I remember seeing this was in the '90's where a "free" dial up ISP was trying this. NetZero maybe? Didn't work then, won't work now. They'll pay out so little it won't be worth it. Don't do it kids!

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[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

"Here little monkey, get your food pellet!"

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