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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

One of these cultures has normalised vegan and vegetarianism for centuries, the other is trying to wean a meat-obsessed population.

They are not the same thing, nor do they have the same requirements to reach their end goals

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

veganism was invented in the 1940s in Britain

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

inaccurate. Even a brief wiki would correct you on this.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

saying something doesn't make it true. alluding to the existence of evidence is not the same as presenting evidence.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what on earth are you on about.

One of the earliest known vegans was the Arab poet al-Maʿarri, famous for his poem "I No Longer Steal From Nature". (c. 973 – c. 1057).

The first known vegan cookbook was Asenath Nicholson's Kitchen Philosophy for Vegetarians, published in 1849

These are documented historical facts. Not "saying something" which ironically appears to be the position you are claiming.

Did the modern name come about in the 40's? yes, that's the etymology of it. But you're treating that fact like the movement or ideology was formed at the same time, which is tremendously, provably wrong. It's like claiming gay people are a relatively new invention because the term "homosexual" wasn't coined until the 1890's

veganism is a specific philosophy, and while variations of vegetarianism predate it, veganism itself dates to the 1940s.

[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

por que no los dos

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Both are good but fake meat is the Pinnacle of processed foods

[–] RenownedBalloonThief@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

"Fake meat" is a broad term that can be more or less "processed" depending on your preferences. I made some teriyaki seitan last night that was basically high-protein bread with herbs and spices.

https://www.myplantifulcooking.com/meaty-vegan-seitan-chicken/#recipe

[–] qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I get that it's a meme, but what's the problem? I'm vegetarian/flirt with veganism; it's purely for moral/ethical/environmental reasons.

Indian food is delicious. An Impossible burger on a pretzel bun dripping with grilled onions, avocado, vegan aioli and mustard with a side of steak fries? That's also delicious, in my opinion.

Meat is delicious, and that's not at all incompatible with my reasoning for being vegetarian.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nothing against people who prefer meat substitutes. But I do think they should be brave and just abandon meat altogether. If you keep relying on meat substitutes, you haven't let go of meat entirely, I found it easy to get back to meat eating.

[–] Vegasimov@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're chatting out your ass, this is like saying lesbians shouldn't use dildos in case they go back to fucking men

Complete ignorance of the thing you're talking about

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Civility@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago