Determinism

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[–] Determinism@kbin.earth 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If we hold this definition for Socialism, then either it means a portion of the economy can be Socialist, ie USPS, or a worker cooperative

No. Capitalism is not the existence of the bourgeoisie, but rather the existence of the commodity form. When commodities are traded for their "exchange value", some of the surplus value of labor from the worker is siphoned off, and goes elsewhere, like to grow the business.

If a rubber ball factory is privately owned but the rubber factory is public

No. As long as the rubber ball factory sells balls it's capitalism.

This means that workers coops, and even other democratically ran systems, as long as items are engaged with the commodity form, are capitalism, and inherit the problems of capitalism (racism, forced labor, imperialism, etc).

The idea that "people" control capital, though a bourgeoisie class or something of the sort is idealism. Materialist analysis says that capital selects the systems and people that "control" it, rather than the other way around. Worker coops are not socialism, but rather, systems similar to bourgeoisie democracy.

This is why China and the other AES states are capitalism. They engage, primarily in the commodity form, and thus inherit the problems that capitalism causes such as racism, forced labor, and imperialism.

Theory I like (may add more as I find more):

  • https://www.international-communist-party.org/English/Texts/65ThChin.htm (although I disagree with this on some parts. The idea that the revolution in Russia failed because "Stalinism betrayed everyone" is again, idealist analysis. The Russian revolution failed/Stalinism came about because the German revolution failed (again, due to material reasons), and there was a failure to bring about international communism.)