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https://www.zleague.gg/theportal/genshin-impact-no-wish/#%3A%7E%3Atext=By+avoiding+spending+money+on%2CImpact+without+impacting+their+wallets. (Probably some a.i article)

Seems like this is already a thing in Genshin impact and some players have been succesful with it.

Reddit and Hoyoverse forums seem to have handful of people doing this.

Yeah no gatcha is no gatcha, no wishes so you would have to make due with starter characters and stuff you can earn without pulls/wishes.

Its basically challenge run that also tests how good the game actually is without any gambling elements.

In Puzzle and Dragons it was possible to clear dungeons to get new characters and some where really good. It was also possible to use premium currency for continues allowing one to use brute force methods to clear dungeons. It was also possible to pair your leader with friends leader reducing the need for gatcha.

Some of the F2P games are great especially if you cant afford new games. In some you can just ignore all cosmetics and focus on getting good. Hell make using default skins your identity and some gamers may get extra salty if they get their ass handed to them by someone using "noob skins".

As for gatcha games it depends largely where the paywall is. If its in the late/endgame then you may very well get tens if not hundreds of hours of enjoyment before you get there. Some of them also shower you with premium currency early on to get you hooked so you might eventually end up with pretty good team to clear most of the content without spendi g a dime.

Stopped playing Puzzle and dragons after clearing tower of gods for umpteenth time to "efficiently" consume my stamina so it would not get wasted.

Had this "wtf I am doing with my life moment" as I was no longer having fun and clearing the dungeon over and over was simply booring time waster.

Started ignoring daily login bonuses and only played when there was new content. Soon after that stopped playing all together.

How do you think genshin impact would work with no gatcha challenge?

Meanin no gatcha pulls other than maybe forced tutorial one. You'd have to make due with only characters and gear you can earn without gatcha. Premium currency earned by playing can be used for anything else but not for any gatcha.

I recall reading that even the tutorial gatcha pull is always the same.

Played Puzzle and dragons for like 3 years when mobile games where booming and spend like total of 300€ to it.

Honestly it was pretty good and did not feel nearly as predatory as many other mobile gatcha games I've played after that.

But it did kinda red pill me on F2P games, gatcha, fomo, peer pressure and many other manipulative methods these games use. The fact that Gungho ended up closing the servers down in Europe making people lose their accounts also showcased pretty well how temporary these games are.

Now if I'll ever again play games with gatcha I'll do no gatcha "challenge" run. It's pretty good for gauging whether the game is actually any good and how fast you'll hit the paywall.

A real insider threat

Steam is clearly playing the long game with Steam Deck and Steam OS, they're basically trying to slowly normalize portable gaming pcs. If they achieve this Nintendo will not be just facing competition from Steam Deck but from multiple devices from the likes of Asus, Lenovo, Dell (Alienware).

Pretty much any game with gatcha like the Hoyoverse games. These often have some sort of endgame paywall but it could take hours to reach it. If the game is bad or simply unplayable without gatcha its a bad game. Free premium currency can often be used for non-rng non-gatcha stuff.

Competitive games usually only have cosmetics so you can just use default skin, ignore battle pass and focus on getting good and having fun. Some people could even get salty for getting their ass handed to them by someome using default costume.

If one wants to play F2P games I would like to recommend the no gatcha challenge. Meaning no gatcha or any in-game purchases. Rewards from forced tutorial pulls can often be sold / deleted or if the first pull isnt random then that doesnt count.

For battle pass games with only cosmetics I encourage to only use default skins, emotes, avatars, frames or etc. It probably annoys a lot of people to get owned by someone wearing "noob" skins.

If the games are still good / enjoyable after these restrictions then they just might be actually good f2p games.

Millenials born in late 80s or early 90s may not remember but it could still have affected their childhood.

There are also plenty of decent Zelda-likes out there from small indie studios all the way to triple-a studios. Sony should really make one of their own looking at how well the managed to but pretty much everything Nintendo all at once to Astro bot.